1Password Updated for iOS 7

Discussion in 'iOS Apps' started by Alonso Quijano, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Alonso Quijano macrumors 6502

    Alonso Quijano

    Jul 17, 2013

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  2. Razeus macrumors 603

    Jul 11, 2008
    Ya, I updated earlier today. It's about freaking time.
  3. madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    I updated as well and loving it so far. But a couple questions come to mind

    1) if you set Request After to Never and PIN code On, you can just use the pin code and not your master password. I kinda prefer this, but is this new or was it in the last update and I just didn't know about it?

    2) if a pin code is used, it says your master password is saved to iOS Keychain. I assume it means iCloud Keychain, but what is the significance of that? Better integration with the keychain?
  4. Cassady macrumors 6502a


    Jul 7, 2012
    Notice that the progress line indicating sync status over Dropbox is missing - which I quite liked... Other than that, pretty nice makeover.
  5. Nyguy76 macrumors member

    Oct 19, 2013
    It looks like it now does what it says. Before, the option was there to never ask for master password but it never really worked. Once the system suspended the app to save resources it would ask for the mater password even it was set to never ask. I assume saving it to keychain is what fixed it.
  6. AGKyle macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2012
    Sorry for the delay. It's actually a complete rewrite in a lot of ways. The interface was completely rewritten for iOS 7 this alone could've taken a lot of time. But beyond that, we also added support for multiple vaults so now you can access those on iOS as well as the Mac. This required massive rewrites to a lot of the "C" in MVC in addition to the rewrite of the interface. Turns out, multiple vaults also required a lot of changes in Sync as well :) So that got a healthy makeover.

    There's a lot of changes under the hood to support both iOS 7 and multiple vaults.

    Hope you enjoy it though!

    The PIN before was troublesome from a couple of standpoints. It only worked so long as the app was in standby in the background. As soon as iOS killed the app and removed it from memory then the key used for encryption was removed from memory and the app then asked for the MP.

    In this update we save the Master Password in the iOS keychain and you can access it by typing in your PIN after enabling this option. Just note that this does in fact save your Master Password in the iOS keychain. It also enables it to be used at any time and not just while the application is loaded into memory.

    This has no relation to iCloud Keychain, it just means we use the iOS keychain to store your master password. There's no way for us to interact with iCloud keychain, it's a private closed API from Apple, no developer can interact with it.

    There are a few things that are a bit more difficult now for us due to the multiple vaults feature. I suspect these will come back but we didn't want to delay it due to some of these as they are quite complex under the hood to be able to support the progress bar. Hopefully you'll see it back in a future update.

    It worked, but it only worked so long as the application was loaded in memory. As soon as iOS said "I need memory, you're taking up memory, you are being forced to quit" then the PIN was no longer applicable and you'd need to use your Master Password again.
  7. WordMasterRice macrumors 6502a

    Aug 3, 2010
    Upstate NY
    Hey Kyle,

    Was there any update to 1passwordAnywhere in this release? One of the things that always annoyed me about it was showing credentials for logins twice for every entry. Also it appears that we can no longer since to both iCloud and Dropbox at the same time?
  8. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    Love the multi-vault!

    I had only just got my Fiance started using 1Password.

    Now with a Dropbox shared folder, and secondary vault. We have a secondary shared vault :)
  9. madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for clearing that up :)
  10. Khryz macrumors 6502a

    Jan 7, 2007
    This is for Kyle but anyone that could help, I would appreciate it!

    My query is regarding using 1Password in tandem with iCloud Keychain. I just use iCloud Keychain now, but with the 1Password updates and the sales I understand the benefits it would provide over just using iCloud Keychain.

    My question is if this combination is frequently used by people, to play on both their strengths, or if it can get confusing for 1Password and/or iCloud Keychain?

    I only have a Mac, and iOS devices, and only use Safari on all, which is why iCloud Keychain works well for me. I want to retain its ability to auto-suggest and save passwords while using mobile Safari, but also have it sync with 1Password to save the passwords there too.

    Is this possible? Does it work well? Are there any settings I would need to turn on/off with 1 of the services so it all works seamlessly?

    Thank you!
  11. Tilpots macrumors 601


    Apr 19, 2006
    Carolina Beach, NC

    I'm having major issues this morning. I use 1Password Anywhere almost daily and this morning I've encountered this issue:


    I then logged in to the app on my phone only to find that several of my passwords had been changed to previous versions. The only thing I've done recently is to change the sync on the new app to Dropbox from iCloud. How do I get back working again?
  12. Primejimbo macrumors 68040

    Aug 10, 2008
    So I signed up for a new site today and before I swore the little key at the top was the password generator, now I clicked on it and I didn't get that. Am I doing something wrong?
  13. SMIDG3T Suspended


    Apr 29, 2012
    I have just encountered this issue. Very annoying.
  14. AGKyle, Apr 27, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014

    AGKyle macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2012
    No, 1PasswordAnywhere was not updated in this release.

    The reason you're seeing this is two fold.

    1Password saves form data from the site you logged into. It saves the field name and the contents of that field. Now, if the login field is named "username" and the password field is named "password" (these field names could literally be anything under the sun, it's defined by the developer of the site) then we save those:


    Now, when we do this, we also save other items that might be there, such as the "remember me" field, it too, would show up in this list above. Now, when we save the login, we also mark each field if they are the username and password, so you end up with this:


    What you're seeing in 1PasswordAnywhere is this:

    1) The designated username and password
    2) All fields (which just so happen to be identical to #1 in those many cases.

    So, yes, this is duplication, but it's showing users who have different data all of the fields... it's possible that the user has two passwords for a site, if we only showed the designated username and password fields, then they wouldn't view the second password without seeing the stuff below. Hope that clarifies things for you. Basically, this isn't going to go away, it's staying.

    As for multiple syncing, it was problematic and only a stop gap until we had iCloud on the Mac as well. This won't be coming back either. We've been suggesting to users that they pick a single sync solution for awhile now in preparation for this coming.

    My pleasure!

    Absolutely, we have users who use both. My suggestion though is probably not to do this. Otherwise it's possible you end up with split data. I.e. data exists in one but not the other. Then you're not sure where to look to find something when you need it. By using a single product you find the location of the data much more easily. Otherwise you need a workflow to enter all data into one, and then put some select data into the other as needed, if needed. I just use 1Password for everything since I switch between browsers and iCloud Keychain won't work in anything but Safari, making it nearly worthless for me in my experience. Others may find it more useful though, so hopefully the above does explain what you need to be wary of.

    Note that 1Password does _not_ sync with iCloudKeychain. You would have to manually put the data in each. Be mindful of this going forward.

    Does this work when you goto Dropbox.com and login, then goto the 1Password.html file?

    You might be better off sending us a support email though, you can mention my name and they'll put you in touch with me support @ agilebits . com, (no spaces), otherwise this is going to get heavy for a support forum and I'd rather not put instructions in here that are not necessarily good for people to do on their own without having the _exact_ same issue you are.

    The key icon in the menu bar has a "Password Generator" area, see the screenshot here:


    Do you see this? If so, that's your password generator.

    See the above, does it work if you goto Dropbox.com and goto the 1Password.html file? Do not try this from your local Dropbox folder, it won't work there in many cases.

    If this isn't working, please email us at support @ agile bits . com, no spaces, and mention my name and I'll work with you to figure out what is happening.
  15. Primejimbo, Apr 27, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2014

    Primejimbo macrumors 68040

    Aug 10, 2008
    Nope, now are we talking about the iOS one? I select the key and it just gives me "choose an item to fill" and options of: login using, fill credit card, and fill identity.

    The password generator is missing from the web browsers, or is it moved?

  16. Tilpots macrumors 601


    Apr 19, 2006
    Carolina Beach, NC
    Apparently my issue is known over at Agile Bits, but so far no fix. Any idea what's going on? It's been a few days now. I also sent an email as suggested, too.
  17. AGKyle macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2012
    Sorry, I missed that you were using iOS.

    iOS does not have a password generator in the browser window. It'll be added in a future update I believe. If you're changing passwords on iOS, this is my workflow:

    1. Goto the Login item in the list and view it
    2. Tap the URL to open the site
    3. Goto the password change page
    4. If the old password is needed I paste it in
    5. If only the new password is needed, I tap the detail icon (slider, goes back to the vault). Edit, generate a new password by tapping on the password, saving, then copying it and pasting it into the web page.

    This works pretty well for me, though, it is more steps than is needed on the Mac. We'll be working on this in a future update but I don't have any time frame or definitives on how it'll change.


    Can you PM me your email address so I can look it up in the system? The sale, combined with heartbleed has us a little backed up in the support queue.

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