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What I really would like to know is how these look on the inside.

a) a iPadPro PCB, cooler and ports-PCB hold together by hot glue and patch wires

b) a production level PCB just waiting for an "A15D" to be dropped in (adding USB4/Thunderbolt) to form the 2020 MacMini
 
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leman

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I already see people having their developer accounts getting banned 😭
 

mikeboss

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GeekBench results (GeekBench running in Rosetta 2, of course).

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leman

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Its not too bad! I mean, already this dev box under Rosetta seems to be competitive with the native MacBook Air. By the way, I'd expect that Rosetta-translated software will run better on the final hardware (it probably will contains some additional hardware support for this kind of utilization).
 

verticalines

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So rosetta2 is -35% performance hit? Kinda curious why a mac mini a12z is only running at w.4ghz though

It's going to take Apple some good tweaking to get higher clockspeeds. We don't really know what the ceiling is before it just takes way too much power/voltage to sustain say 2.9Ghz with limited return and long-term degradation risks. If you've ever played with overclocking, you may know how much more it takes to go from say 3.8Ghz to 4.0Ghz (AMD Zen1 chip) to a point where the power inefficiency and extra heat outweighs the benefits to any reasonable person.

Apple's SoC won't be threaded (yet and likely not for awhile). So they'll likely add a few more performance cores for emulation purposes and general overall boost. In regular tasks, expect those smaller cores to be used somewhere too.
 

jinnyman

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Its not too bad! I mean, already this dev box under Rosetta seems to be competitive with the native MacBook Air. By the way, I'd expect that Rosetta-translated software will run better on the final hardware (it probably will contains some additional hardware support for this kind of utilization).
I agree. A12z was not really meant for desktop run which explains low base clock speed. Hopefully, their Apple Silicone will be much better.
 

honcho

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Pretty impressive results. I think my MBP 2.4Ghz i9 32GB is around 1200/7300 In Geekbench 5. I think that Mac chips are going to seriously surprise a lot of people performance-wise. The ARM transition is a very move: a unified architecture across the product line, a demonstrable power advantage, and a self-determined pipeline. For years, the only real innovation at Apple has been its silicon. I haven’t been this excited about Apple hardware for 15 years.
 

dmccloud

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I got the email today to order my kit - unfortunately it won't be here until the 1st week of August, but I'm ready to see firsthand how MacOS runs on ARM code.
 

nick9191

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I got the email today to order my kit - unfortunately it won't be here until the 1st week of August, but I'm ready to see firsthand how MacOS runs on ARM code.

Apple are taking their time, you'll only have it possibly as little as 60 days before the first production units starts shipping.
 
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