That was also my experience when I installed the GM a few weeks ago, which is why I worry that everyone posting their first day experience is going to freak some folks out. lol
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1st gen MacBook Air gets burning HOT with Lion 10.7
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my 2010 2.8ghz i7 got burning hot yesterday and i wasn't doing hardly anything. It never gets that hot.
Activity monitor shows it's not using much more than around 3%, 97% idle.
Today i have been watching the processes and i did see 'netbiosd' process jump up to 50% for a split second. It's using 2 threads. I also see mdworker up but i haven't seen it using any CPU %. It's using 4 threads.
The only app i have installed and run is Google Chrome.
So i guess i'll wait and see if my computer gets hot again today.
Activity monitor shows it's not using much more than around 3%, 97% idle.
Today i have been watching the processes and i did see 'netbiosd' process jump up to 50% for a split second. It's using 2 threads. I also see mdworker up but i haven't seen it using any CPU %. It's using 4 threads.
The only app i have installed and run is Google Chrome.
So i guess i'll wait and see if my computer gets hot again today.
Earlier this week, Adobe said that Flash Player -- the most widely-used browser plug-in on the planet -- consumed a large percentage of a Mac's processor cycles when playing YouTube videos, an issue that could lead to a general slow-down of the machine.
Adobe initially said the Flash Player problem on Mac OS X 10.7, aka Lion, was "possibly related to disabled hardware acceleration" in the operating system.
Flash Player 10 accelerates video playback by tapping the Mac's graphics processor unit (GPU). The plug-in supported hardware acceleration on Snow Leopard, Lion's predecessor.
Nice..... I think that's what's taxing my CPU to get it so damn hot.
Adobe initially said the Flash Player problem on Mac OS X 10.7, aka Lion, was "possibly related to disabled hardware acceleration" in the operating system.
Flash Player 10 accelerates video playback by tapping the Mac's graphics processor unit (GPU). The plug-in supported hardware acceleration on Snow Leopard, Lion's predecessor.
Nice..... I think that's what's taxing my CPU to get it so damn hot.
FWIW, Adobe has since retracted that claim.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/2...lack-support-for-flash-hardware-acceleration/
Okay, so day 3 running Lion. Just light web browsing (with Click2Flash enabled, not using any flash anywhere, mostly just MR). Indexing is finished long ago. For some reason, my 11" MBA ultimate (2010) is running warmer than it ever used to (iStat Nano temps now ranging from 95F - 122F). I don't remember the iStat Nano temps before, but to the best of my recollection, I believe it was high 70s or 80s. Its physically hot to the touch, and in the past 8 months of having this laptop, I've rarely noticed this type of heat.
Also, my battery is almost dead, and its only been ~2.5 hours so far. Before installing Lion, doing the same activities (light web browsing), I would have at least 4 hours. My display is low-mid, and other than safari, I've got nothing else running. No music, no videos, no games, etc. If this is purely due to Lion, then I may have to go back to snow leopard. I can't function with under 3 hours of battery life, thats ridiculous.
Also, my battery is almost dead, and its only been ~2.5 hours so far. Before installing Lion, doing the same activities (light web browsing), I would have at least 4 hours. My display is low-mid, and other than safari, I've got nothing else running. No music, no videos, no games, etc. If this is purely due to Lion, then I may have to go back to snow leopard. I can't function with under 3 hours of battery life, thats ridiculous.
This.
Parallels 6 has a couple bugs on 10.6.8 and Lion, including one that can cause the Dock to run at full tilt heating up the laptop and burning through battery.
I bet it has something to do with click2flash, try looking at the cpu processes under Activity Monitor and seeing what's using the CPU.
the highest CPU usage percentage in Activity monitor is for Activity monitor itself (varies but ~3%). there's no flash for click2flash to block on the pages I'm on, so I really dunno what's goin on....
Are you sorting by name or '% CPU'?. Also make sure you change it from "my processes" to 'all processes'
lion doesn't come with flash. So unless you installed flash with click2flash, then there's no flash to block, as you don't have it.
If your computer isn't using much of the CPU then it shouldn't be hot.
So, I'm running at 78-80 deg from only light web browsing for the past 20 minutes, while everything else is running at around 36 deg. Also, from 100% charge, I'm now at 88%.
From the activity monitor, AGAdminService (root) is eating up 97-98%. Which google tells me it has to do with my remote client (Citrix). Although, I am not currently remotely logged in, none of the applications I use for remote work is open, and for good measure, I have disabled Dropbox.
In the less than a minute it took to write this post, I've dropped an additional 1% in battery life.
Apple is supposed to call me in 5 minutes. We'll see what they say.
From the activity monitor, AGAdminService (root) is eating up 97-98%. Which google tells me it has to do with my remote client (Citrix). Although, I am not currently remotely logged in, none of the applications I use for remote work is open, and for good measure, I have disabled Dropbox.
In the less than a minute it took to write this post, I've dropped an additional 1% in battery life.
Apple is supposed to call me in 5 minutes. We'll see what they say.
Sorting by %, under "all processes." I had flash from before (I didn't do a clean install of Lion). Yeah, so there's nothing else running, which is why I can't figure out why its running hotter.... And why my battery is dying so fast.
I think i read about a problem with citrix.
My computer is done indexing spotlight but its still writing to the HD. Since i started the computer this morning it's written 3.05 GB to the disc and it's still going. I have 8gb memory and zero page outs today either.......
Sorting by %, under "all processes." I had flash from before (I didn't do a clean install of Lion). Yeah, so there's nothing else running, which is why I can't figure out why its running hotter.... And why my battery is dying so fast.
I'd do a clean install if i were you. You might very well still have the problem but at least then you know it's not something left over messing with stuff.
(up to 3.06GB written now btw... what the hell is it doing???)
Thanks, yeah, I guess I just may have to do that. I was just trying to avoid that for now, knowing how long it would take to reinstall everything... I'll have to wait til late next week before I can do the whole backup/erase/install/reinstall apps/restore files process. In the meantime, maybe Apple will release an update to address this issue.
Maybe try rebooting your system?
Just figured out how to fix it. Seems like a temp fix until Citrix fixes things on their end.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191543?tstart=0
Basically, it seems like there are a couple of applications that are not Lion-ready, and they may just keep cycling over and over, Citrix being one of them.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191543?tstart=0
Basically, it seems like there are a couple of applications that are not Lion-ready, and they may just keep cycling over and over, Citrix being one of them.
It's up to 3.09 GB written now.
I started up my 2010 13" c2d and it's just sitting there at 64mb written from just sitting. It also is done with the spotlight caching.
what the hell. Hopefully it's doing something and will finish whatever that something is....
i7 is up to 3.13gb written
c2d up to 228mb written
It's funny because i'm watching the disk activity chart and it'll be idle then start jumping around and go back to idle.....
WHAT ARE YOU DOING LION!??!?!??!?! arrrrrg.....
EDIT: i7 is up to 3.23 GB and i'm restarting. All this disc writing cannot be good for my ssd.
a thought: Could this be TRIM??????
c2d up to 228mb written
It's funny because i'm watching the disk activity chart and it'll be idle then start jumping around and go back to idle.....
WHAT ARE YOU DOING LION!??!?!??!?! arrrrrg.....
EDIT: i7 is up to 3.23 GB and i'm restarting. All this disc writing cannot be good for my ssd.
a thought: Could this be TRIM??????
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Late 2010 13" Ultimate MB Air
I installed Lion on my Late 2010 13" Ultimate MB Air immediately after it was available on the Mac App Store and the only time I've even heard the fan was the first 5 minutes after I booted Lion for the first time (I'm guessing that was Spotlight indexing -- probably only took a short amount of time since I've got less than 100gb on my SSDs right now). Since then, I've constantly been running Mail, iCal, Safari, iTunes, iPhoto (and sometimes Pages) all in fullscreen as well as Entourage on its own space/desktop and Word in its own space/desktop along with Twitter and Facebook (Facebox app) in the menubar and continuously connected to 2 SMB servers for work. Like I said, with all that running simultaneously, I haven't heard the fan running at all and my battery life has actually improved with Lion versus Snow Leopard (before I had 4 dedicated Spaces instead of this jumbled Mission Control, which I'm adapting to). Also, I always have the screen brightness turned all the way up. I must keep in mind that I haven't fired up Civ V or done any video processing, etc. yet. I hope that the dedicated NVIDIA gpu continues to impress me like it did on 10.6.
Needless to say, so far I'm more than satisfied with Lion -- other than the pointless Launchpad which I just disable 
I installed Lion on my Late 2010 13" Ultimate MB Air immediately after it was available on the Mac App Store and the only time I've even heard the fan was the first 5 minutes after I booted Lion for the first time (I'm guessing that was Spotlight indexing -- probably only took a short amount of time since I've got less than 100gb on my SSDs right now). Since then, I've constantly been running Mail, iCal, Safari, iTunes, iPhoto (and sometimes Pages) all in fullscreen as well as Entourage on its own space/desktop and Word in its own space/desktop along with Twitter and Facebook (Facebox app) in the menubar and continuously connected to 2 SMB servers for work. Like I said, with all that running simultaneously, I haven't heard the fan running at all and my battery life has actually improved with Lion versus Snow Leopard (before I had 4 dedicated Spaces instead of this jumbled Mission Control, which I'm adapting to). Also, I always have the screen brightness turned all the way up. I must keep in mind that I haven't fired up Civ V or done any video processing, etc. yet. I hope that the dedicated NVIDIA gpu continues to impress me like it did on 10.6.
Needless to say, so far I'm more than satisfied with Lion -- other than the pointless Launchpad which I just disable
Alright, so I took the plunge yesterday and spent the better part of the day doing a clean install and reinstalling the basics. Its still not running much cooler, and within 1 hour of regular use, my battery dropped from 98% to 56% (whereas it should've only dropped maybe 25%)... Seeing as how this is a relatively new machine, and that this issue started with Lion, I'm concluding that it has something to do with Lion itself. Its tolerable for now, so I don't think I'll be taking it to the Genius Bar just yet. Will just have to see what happens with the 10.7.1 update. Otherwise I may downgrade back to 10.6.8, then update again when Lion is more stable (I've also had 2 crashes since yesterday, both of which required hard reboots).
Agreed
I'm running the Early 2011 MBP
4gb ram
Now an Intel 320 SSD (was the 250 gb original)
Intel core 2 duo
13 inch
Was NEVER this hot under normal operations. Also, battery life has gone to crap. Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to the change though. We'll see how it fares over the next few days
Ive got an ultimate 11" MBA (2010), and I've heard more fan noise today than since the day I got the laptop. Even then, not a lot, but more than normal. The fan was even on high as Lion was installing. And it does seem to be running warmer (it used to stay cold before on the bottom). Too bad I didn't record the temps or fan speeds from before to compare
I'm running the Early 2011 MBP
4gb ram
Now an Intel 320 SSD (was the 250 gb original)
Intel core 2 duo
13 inch
Was NEVER this hot under normal operations. Also, battery life has gone to crap. Maybe I'm just hypersensitive to the change though. We'll see how it fares over the next few days
Well, I think it might have a bit to do with the new animations in Lion (like the rubber band effect). I went into my Activity Monitor, and organized by "all processes" and "%," and Activity Monitor was the highest, staying around 1-4%. Then I kept pulling the screen down (so that it'd pull back up with the rubber band effect), and watched the CPU% for Activity Monitor jump to 27-30%!! Thats insane! And thats just one little animation. I can't imagine how many little things that are going on in Lion that are eating up CPU, and thus likely creating heat and draining our batteries! Of course, I could be jumping to conclusions though.
If anyone else would like to try this out (go to Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor, set to "all processes" and sort by %, then keep pulling it down repeatedly to see the rubber band effect. Watch the Activity Monitor's CPU %). I'd be interested to see other ppl's comments...
If anyone else would like to try this out (go to Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor, set to "all processes" and sort by %, then keep pulling it down repeatedly to see the rubber band effect. Watch the Activity Monitor's CPU %). I'd be interested to see other ppl's comments...
Launch Activity Monitor and change "My Processes" at the top to "All Processes", then click on the CPU column heading once or twice, so the arrow points downward (highest values on top). Also, click on the System Memory tab at the bottom. Then take a screen shot, scroll down to see the rest of the list, take another screen shot and post them.
Also, install iStat Pro to get accurate readings of your temperatures and fan speeds. Post a screen shot of that, as well.
I am running with a 1st Gen MacBookAir on Lion 10.7.4 (just updated) but I use xcode all day on it, with testing offlined to a plugged in iPad so no simulator and I am running into 147F temps , I propped up the mac so it's floating off the desk now in a home-made laptop stand and there is about 1.5" of air underneath it now and I'm seeing the idle temp dropping down to 124F Is there a better way to cool this guy down? I notice it starts to really slow down once it gets closer to 150F
, I propped up the mac so it's floating off the desk now in a home-made laptop stand and there is about 1.5" of air underneath it now and I'm seeing the idle temp dropping down to 124F Is there a better way to cool this guy down? I notice it starts to really slow down once it gets closer to 150F