1TB iPP necessary?

Reality4711

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Is the 1TB iPP needed to get the increase in ram for photo editing?

I will be using Affinity and 0.5TB would seem enough storage for my usage but would like to know if the cost of 1TB just to get more ram would be worth it - performance(speed)?
 

sparksd

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What size files are you processing? I do 25MB Canon RAW (CR2) files on my 10.5" iPP with Lightroom without a problem.
 

Reality4711

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My camera produces 50mb Raf (RAW) files and I usually output for print at between 75mb to 300mb 16bit tiffs..

Rarely outputting the odd jpg for web posting-less nowadays.

No, it is not. The extra ram is used for a different purpose.

Interested in 'the other' purpose?

You are saying the extra ram will have no impact on the editing performance?:(:)
 

Beards

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My camera produces 50mb Raf (RAW) files and I usually output for print at between 75mb to 300mb 16bit tiffs..

Rarely outputting the odd jpg for web posting-less nowadays.

No, it is not. The extra ram is used for a different purpose.

Interested in 'the other' purpose?

You are saying the extra ram will have no impact on the editing performance?:(:)
The 1TB storage model requires more RAM to run and operate this much larger solid state drive.
 
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sparksd

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Agreed.... For additional storage you could use an Apple MFI certified iOS Flash Drive or a RavPower FileHub Plus.
I've been using a FileHub for 3.5 years now and while it is very nice for offline storage, like any other wireless storage device it is relatively slow (though fast enough for video streaming). I have a couple of Lightning-based flash devices but I don't know that there are any compatible USB-C devices available as yet. And there's the old issue of iOS apps accessing connected storage - clumsy.
 

Beards

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I've been using a FileHub for 3.5 years now and while it is very nice for offline storage, like any other wireless storage device it is relatively slow (though fast enough for video streaming). I have a couple of Lightning-based flash devices but I don't know that there are any compatible USB-C devices available as yet. And there's the old issue of iOS apps accessing connected storage - clumsy.
Taken from RAVPower:-
The brand new RAVPower RP-WD009 FileHub is the update version of RP-WD007 and NEW upgraded Filehub Plus, 6700 mAh power bank, portable travel router, SD card USB reader and a media streamer.

The difference between RP-WD007 and RP-WD009
1) One key backup speed improve to 14~18 Mb/s from 7-12 mb/s when your are using high speed SD card.
2) Overheating: Solved
3) Battery Capacity changed to 6700 mAh from 5200 mAh
4) User Manual: upgrade
5) Type C port replaced by Micro USB port
6) The problem of app: solved most of them and still working on the rest.

The difference between RP-WD03 and RP-WD009

1) RP-WD009 is updated with faster seepd which can instantly converts a wired network to wireless with super-fast speeds of up to 433 Mbps Wi-Fi over 802.11ac and 300 Mbps on 802.11n connection.
2) Better APP and more stable.
3) Additional Function: One key backup speed up to 14~18 Mb/s which is useful for the customer who need to transfer the files from SD card to portable hard drive.
 

sparksd

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Taken from RAVPower:-
The brand new RAVPower RP-WD009 FileHub is the update version of RP-WD007 and NEW upgraded Filehub Plus, 6700 mAh power bank, portable travel router, SD card USB reader and a media streamer.

The difference between RP-WD007 and RP-WD009
1) One key backup speed improve to 14~18 Mb/s from 7-12 mb/s when your are using high speed SD card.
2) Overheating: Solved
3) Battery Capacity changed to 6700 mAh from 5200 mAh
4) User Manual: upgrade
5) Type C port replaced by Micro USB port
6) The problem of app: solved most of them and still working on the rest.

The difference between RP-WD03 and RP-WD009

1) RP-WD009 is updated with faster seepd which can instantly converts a wired network to wireless with super-fast speeds of up to 433 Mbps Wi-Fi over 802.11ac and 300 Mbps on 802.11n connection.
2) Better APP and more stable.
3) Additional Function: One key backup speed up to 14~18 Mb/s which is useful for the customer who need to transfer the files from SD card to portable hard drive.
I have all three models (plus a fourth WD001) and continue to use the WD03 as it's smallest and there is no real improvement that I have measured in performance in the newer devices. The WD07 is unusable - it just gets way too hot (why they discontinued it) and the WD09 has been out of stock for some time (manufacturing problems?).

My review -

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-ravpower-filehub-model-wd009.2166261/
 

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My camera produces 50mb Raf (RAW) files and I usually output for print at between 75mb to 300mb 16bit tiffs..

Rarely outputting the odd jpg for web posting-less nowadays.

No, it is not. The extra ram is used for a different purpose.

Interested in 'the other' purpose?

You are saying the extra ram will have no impact on the editing performance?:(:)
Another poster explained it. The extra RAM is used for control. Can not say if there is a difference but I am betting you can save some big bucks with the 512gb model.
 

tps3443

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Is the 1TB iPP needed to get the increase in ram for photo editing?

I will be using Affinity and 0.5TB would seem enough storage for my usage but would like to know if the cost of 1TB just to get more ram would be worth it - performance(speed)?
The ram helps, all of the iPad Pro’s 6GB of ram is available to be used for applications! No ram is used for storage, thought is was a silly rumor. so I did some testing my self. Buy a 1TB! Your video editing applications will run much smoother.
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No, it is not. The extra ram is used for a different purpose.

Just but the device with the storage you need.
I’ve been testing both for some time now. 512GB, and 1TB. I just gave my brothers 512GB IPP back to him, that I was testing against my 1TB.

No ram is used for storage lol. That is he silliest rumor haha. I dunno who started it but, you must understand Adobe Rush CC can hammer almost all of the memory on the 512GB IPP, and performance is terrible, very low FPS in the preview timeline, application stutters too.

This does not occur on a 1TB IPAD PRO.
 

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The ram helps, all of the iPad Pro’s 6GB of ram is available to be used for applications! No ram is used for storage, thought is was a silly rumor. so I did some testing my self. Buy a 1TB! Your video editing applications will run much smoother.
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I’ve been testing both for some time now. 512GB, and 1TB. I just gave my brothers 512GB IPP back to him, that I was testing against my 1TB.

No ram is used for storage lol. That is he silliest rumor haha. I dunno who started it but, you must understand Adobe Rush CC can hammer almost all of the memory on the 512GB IPP, and performance is terrible, very low FPS in the preview timeline, application stutters too.

This does not occur on a 1TB IPAD PRO.
While I agree with you that RAM is never used for storage, and that’s a foolish rumor, I’d disagree that most would see a difference in performance between a 4GB and 6GB model. App-wise, the 6GB can’t do anything the 4GB model can’t. The only place you’d really see it in use is in lack of app refreshes.
 
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tps3443

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Thank you. Quite price hike for 500gb of storage?:(
If you want a smooth experience and you are editing photos, or using any kind of professional software on a iPad Pro, purchase a 1TB and do not look back. Rest assured all of the memory can be utilized, no memory is used for storage space.

All iPads have 7% of there ram being utilized no matter if it is 4GB, or 6GB. The 512GB iPad Pro has around 3.69GB of ram available for applications. Well I’ve used over 4GB of ram in Adobe Rush CC with 1.55GB free on my 1TB iPad.

So, with only around 3.7GB of ram available on the lower storage ipad pro’s, Adobe rush starts sucking a lot of it up, during editing, numerous files are added, removed, several cuts, and filters use more and more memory during the period of getting in your groove and just editing a simple clip, after your free memory is depleted, Adobe rush starts working on borrowing inactive memory to maintain the application. This is when micro stutters, and lagging performance starts to happen.
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While I agree with you that RAM is never used for storage, and that’s a foolish rumor, I’d disagree that most would see a difference in performance between a 4GB and 6GB model. App-wise, the 6GB can’t do anything the 4GB model can’t. The only place you’d really see it in use is in lack of app refreshes.
I’d only recommend the 1TB for someone using Adobe photoshop, or Rush, or iMovie frequently. I could literally put a 512GB 11” beside a 1TB 11” and recreate the same problem every single time. The stuttering is severe and your preview plays at around 3 frames per second after about 15-20 minutes once the 4GB models memory is near the bottom. And closing the application fixes the problem, only for another few more minutes, until the memory is depleted again.
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While I agree with you that RAM is never used for storage, and that’s a foolish rumor, I’d disagree that most would see a difference in performance between a 4GB and 6GB model. App-wise, the 6GB can’t do anything the 4GB model can’t. The only place you’d really see it in use is in lack of app refreshes.
Honestly your right. But, before I even owned the 1TB iPad Pro. I owned a iPad Pro 11” 64GB, The experience was almost always very smooth with all of my usage. Until I was casually editing a video and started experiencing the problem I described in Adobe Rush ^ above. And then, after dealing with touch issues I ended up with a 1TB iPad Pro 11” that’s when I realized all of this about the memory situation. I borrowed my brother 512GB while he was on vacation, and started putting way to many hours in researching memory usage across both models.

Apple should have given them all 6GB of ram. But, I guess with there supplier or whoever they buy there storage and memory from in bulk the combination didn’t work out that way.

I have no idea.