Good point. For the M4 Air? $400 to go 256GB -> 1GB. So, the modders are charging up to $250 for the same. How about 2TB?
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JPack
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ThailandToo
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Yeah, sure. Good luck having anyone at Apple accept that and good luck getting it enforced. I paid for an iPhone display repair at Apple. I then went to take the same phone in for a battery replacement, they wouldn’t replace the battery due to an “AFTERMARKET” display. I absolutely cannot stand the Apple Store that did that, Omaha Nebraska Apple Village Point, may be as worthless as they come. Anyways, nobody would help, even I had a receipt from the display repair at that very Apple Store, so perhaps their own employee swapped the part to use one for someone he knew? No idea, but the point is even Apple can ruin your device, and not hold themselves responsible. I would also say US consumer law is among the worst in the world. Companies run the show, and regulators get paid to do what the shareholders and companies want, so consumers get the shaft.
Sure Apple could "drop in" all kinds of things. But that would defeat the point of the Neo: a lowest-cost entry to Mac. Every added choice complicates the Neo and adds cost. So I say no; keep Neo as a cheap, well made but barely-good-enough entry level device. Folks above entry level (most posting here) that want more need to cowgirl up and pay +$400 for the far more competent MBA.
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maflynn
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Actually my link still says 69.99. here is the exact thing I bought.
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WD BLUE SSD 1tb
66 bucks Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-Blue-SN5000-NVMe-SSD-nbsp-1TB-WDBS3F0010BNC-WRWM/13541866278?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSeller...
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maflynn
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Might be caching issuesActually my link still says 69.99. here is the exact thing I bought.
WD BLUE SSD 1tb
66 bucks Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-Blue-SN5000-NVMe-SSD-nbsp-1TB-WDBS3F0010BNC-WRWM/13541866278?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSeller...
When I went to walmart.com the 1TB showed 69 dollars but out of stock. Once I clicked the 2TB, that was replaced with a 1TB for 181. Also the other member was discussing 2TB which is the same price as amazon
I thought $189 was expensive last time I bought a 4TB SSD.
I wanted another one, but now decent 4TB NVMe SSDs are more than double what I paid.
I should have gotten a 8TB one, though I'm not sure they ever went below $600.
I wanted another one, but now decent 4TB NVMe SSDs are more than double what I paid.
I should have gotten a 8TB one, though I'm not sure they ever went below $600.
Might be caching issue then. It does say out of stock. So 2tb was probably cheaper too. So glad I baught 3 months ago. Probably high because of tarrifs and what have you. Prices will return to normal in 2029.
It's not the tariffs per se that has caused RAM and storage to greatly increase in price.
The real reason for the drastic price increases are from all the AI data centers gobbling up all of the memory and storage devices.
You could buy a name brand 2 TB NVME drive for around $100 - $150 back in November and now you are lucky if you can find one for lead than $250.
I had bought a 64GB DDR5 SODIMM kit for around $150 last year and the cheapest price for the same kit since January is around $650 and some places want up to $950 now.
The cost of RAM and storage has increase so much since December due to the data centers that it makes the Apple Tax for upgrades not look so bad.
Has this upgrade been verified? Usualy you can upgrade the memory of a mac only up to the size apple is selling.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
The mac mini and studio have similar or same nand modules, so while I cannot verify that this will work, its more likely then not that it will work. If the upgrade process is anything like the studio, you will need another Mac as you need to put the neo in dfu mode to complete the upgrade.
Using DFU mode is required for the Mini and Studio so it's safe to say that DFU will have to be used for the Neo.
Who knows if this have been verified with the Neo. But plenty of people have done it with the Mac mini and Mac Studio. We do know that the A18 Pro will handle up to 1 TB since that was an option for the iPhone 16 Pro.
Snørrbjørg
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TVreporter
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For a moment, when he brought out the 12", I thought he was going to show how to put the innards of the Neo into the 12"!
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
Yes, for a high price and thus violate the idea this is an entry level, low priced laptop and it will then be competing directly with the MacBook Air.
Apple is having to walk a tightrope now that they have a low cost entry level laptop that is cheaper then the MBA. Offer too many features, it will cannibalize sales of the MBA
snipr125
macrumors 68030
I bet you Apple will introduce a 1TB Neo. Maybe not this edition, but in the next, i.e. the Neo 2.
I was looking at a Neo in the Apple store. It used 100GB SSD just sitting there, i.e. barebones. This was a 512GB model. 256GB configuration seems very tight.
* macOS took 24.2GB. My laptop next to it, running macOS Tahoe takes 32.6GB. Not sure why there is such a big difference.
* Applications: the Neo says 622MB, which to me is surely some mistake? How is that possible? Mine has Creative Suite and Office plus some other apps. 171GB. The big apps are on my main machine.
* System Data: 37.6GB, mine about 80GB when it stopped calculating. I think this includes Time Machine snapshots and Cache stuff, so highly variable.
P.S. I notice I have an inadvertent iOS backup for my iPhone, nearly 50GB, now deleted. It's my travel machine, not my main machine, which has my phone backups.
* macOS took 24.2GB. My laptop next to it, running macOS Tahoe takes 32.6GB. Not sure why there is such a big difference.
* Applications: the Neo says 622MB, which to me is surely some mistake? How is that possible? Mine has Creative Suite and Office plus some other apps. 171GB. The big apps are on my main machine.
* System Data: 37.6GB, mine about 80GB when it stopped calculating. I think this includes Time Machine snapshots and Cache stuff, so highly variable.
P.S. I notice I have an inadvertent iOS backup for my iPhone, nearly 50GB, now deleted. It's my travel machine, not my main machine, which has my phone backups.
MultiFinder17
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Apple loads their display machines up with a fair bit of stuff - applications, documents, music, videos, etc. I'm currently typing this on my 256GB Neo which, after setting it up, installing all my apps, moving documents and my music library over, is using 98GB. If one doesn't do a whole lot with big files such as video and music, it's really not an issue.
On one of my laptops, an M3, Apple Intelligence itself takes 6.38GB out of the macOS total of 32.58GB.
On another one, M1 Max, Apple Intelligence takes 3.47GB out of the macOS total of 25.77GB.
Don't know why there is such a discrepancy. Both machines are running macOS Tahoe.