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2 U. S. Servicemen stop a terrorist attack on a French train
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American involvement was underplayed by the Times and the White House, an involvement without which we know what would have resulted: The discovery of an entire ridership shot dead, after they were discovered among the train wreckage spread across a French town or countryside. All the terrorist had to do was walk a straight line and shoot. And we'd all be left wondering what happened and who did it.
Others helping on the train were laudable, anyone here would have helped; especially when the Americans took the man down and minimization of the threat became evident.
Give it a rest Fielding.
The job of the New York Times, like any reputable newspaper, is to report facts. Which they did, exhaustively. Three articles the day the incident occurred. Two more yesterday, and then more coverage today of the ceremony at the Elysee Palace where the men received the Legion of Honor.
It is not the job of New York Times news reporters to make generalized opinion statements as to wider level of courage, patriotism, martial skill, or dynamism of young American males versus their European counterparts. They leave it to the quotes of concerned parties (i.e. witnesses on the train, French Government and security officials) to convey the sense of appreciation of the individuals involved.
Its called journalism. Not Team America World Police.
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Actually , the sequence of events is :
- Terrorist goes inside toilet to load and prepare his weapons. He gets out of the bathroom and finds himself face to face with a french man ( a 28 yo who works in a bank ) . Struggling ensues and the french guy manages to temporarely make the assaillant drops his AK47, but then the latter pulls out a gun and shoots him, then walks towards the following wagon, where 3 american friends ( two of them are military and on vacation with their third friend who is a Kinesitherapy student ) where sitting. One of them ( military ) runs towards him and punches him to the ground , followed by his two other friends who try to placate him and disarm him. The assaillant still manages to pull-out a knife and cut one of the american guys. A 62 yo briton ( who lives in France ) gets up and help the guys by straining the assaillant arm, then later tie him up with a tie from one of the trains employees.
The three americans and the briton got their medal of honor. The french guy is still in the hospital, he apparently survived and is well, but wants to remain anonymous ( for reasons of his own), and he will be privately rewarded by a medal from the president on a later date, away from the media attention.
So there you go, it's actually a french plus a briton plus 2 american soldiers ( on vacation ) plus one american civilian..
Sorry if this hurts anyone's desire for solo chest beating
- Terrorist goes inside toilet to load and prepare his weapons. He gets out of the bathroom and finds himself face to face with a french man ( a 28 yo who works in a bank ) . Struggling ensues and the french guy manages to temporarely make the assaillant drops his AK47, but then the latter pulls out a gun and shoots him, then walks towards the following wagon, where 3 american friends ( two of them are military and on vacation with their third friend who is a Kinesitherapy student ) where sitting. One of them ( military ) runs towards him and punches him to the ground , followed by his two other friends who try to placate him and disarm him. The assaillant still manages to pull-out a knife and cut one of the american guys. A 62 yo briton ( who lives in France ) gets up and help the guys by straining the assaillant arm, then later tie him up with a tie from one of the trains employees.
The three americans and the briton got their medal of honor. The french guy is still in the hospital, he apparently survived and is well, but wants to remain anonymous ( for reasons of his own), and he will be privately rewarded by a medal from the president on a later date, away from the media attention.
So there you go, it's actually a french plus a briton plus 2 american soldiers ( on vacation ) plus one american civilian..
Sorry if this hurts anyone's desire for solo chest beating
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Sorry if this hurts anyone's desire for solo chest beating
Pas du tout...
I think people on both sides of the Atlantic are taking some simple pleasure in the happy outcome of this incident. Too many times, in places from American movie theaters to Paris newspaper offices, such events end tragically.
Forgive me for saying this, but I believe the French people have been more than a little charmed by the honesty, humility, and sincerity of the the three young Americans. I think this may conflict, slightly, with the stereotypes some French people may have entertained about American military men.
Indeed, shortly after this happened , there was a near unanimous appeal from both french politicians and the french media to have them awarded the highest honor medal possible.
On stereotypes, some of it is sometimes based on reality and most of it is based on exageration or fantasies.
Its a shame some Americans who weren't involved let alone even in the country can't keep their willies in their pants too..... FieldingMellish being the perfect example of that.
Exceptionalism?
A direct question to the poster is this also part of that fantastic US Exceptionalism.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/index.html
Or just as sad indictment of man’s inhumanity.
Apparently the shooter posted video of himself shooting the reporter and cameraman. Link here. Obviously, disturbing.
It brings an utterly shocking new meaning to term "first person shooter".
It is pretty obvious from the video that this was no random crime, with the victims caught in the crossfire. I don't really know what to say, other than this is somebody taking modern society's obsession with narcissism; social media, YouTube, "selfies" - along with violence and firearms - to an absolutely ghastly conclusion.
I have just been reading about this horrifying and truly shocking story. Appalling.
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American hero who stopped train attack in France is in stable condition after being stabbed: http://abcn.ws/1GycTnV
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