2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X El Capitan

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by Mr. Zarniwoop, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. svenmullet macrumors newbie

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    Yeah, I installed CapitanPikeFix before and after re-installing 10.11, I figured I'd be good. It either didn't work, or I installed it wrong... I recall something about rebooting and running it again? Don't recall doing that, and it's been so long since I had to mess with the internals of this thing that i've forgotten most of how to get this stuff working :(
    This is why I get so angry when Apple does this to me. Just freaking leave us alone already!
     
  2. rthpjm macrumors 6502a

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    If you choose to use CapitanPikeFix, then you must turn off SIP. It only works with SIP disabled.

    That’s probably where your recollection of needing a reboot comes from...
     
  3. Mr. Zarniwoop thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Just a note that the first post of this thread was updated to include information on rthpjm's Pike install App and links around the recent security update issues.

    If something else should be updated, let me know.

    I've moved on from my 2006 Mac Pro so no longer actively keeping up-to-date with recent developments. Hard to believe that computer lasted me from 2006-2018 and I'd still be using it today if it ran High Sierra!
     
  4. christophercarr86 macrumors newbie

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    I have a Mac Pro 2,1 and been running 10.11.6 for 13 months, with no problems thanks to everyone's help on here! I am now trying to install an application from Universal Audio ( https://www.uaudio.com/ox/app ) (I know that is says it requires Sierra or High Sierra, but Universal Audio confirms that it works on El Capitan. I have also tried it on my MBP that is a supported El Cap computer and it works fine.)

    However, unfortunately when I try to install this app on my 2,1 running 10.11.6 I get an error when I try to install. "OX quit unexpectedly".

    Is there anything with my setup that would be preventing this install ?
    Possibly SIP being disabled ?

    I have a copy of the OSX Problem Report Log as well if that would be beneficial to see the whole thing ?? I can upload it.

    This part that says "Crashed Thread" seems concerning...?

    System Integrity Protection: disabled

    Crashed Thread: 0 Juce Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

    Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
    Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY


    Thread 0 Crashed:: Juce Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107cb6608 0x107bce000 + 951816
    1 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107cb55c8 0x107bce000 + 947656
    2 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107caa2cd 0x107bce000 + 901837
    3 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107d07fb9 0x107bce000 + 1286073
    4 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107cd1721 0x107bce000 + 1062689
    5 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107cd83eb 0x107bce000 + 1090539
    6 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107bdc3b3 0x107bce000 + 58291
    7 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107bd5030 0x107bce000 + 28720
    8 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107c3cc96 0x107bce000 + 453782
    9 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107d0f2bb 0x107bce000 + 1315515
    10 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107c3cb3d 0x107bce000 + 453437
    11 com.uaudio. OX 0x0000000107c3cae3 0x107bce000 + 453347
    12 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff8c0d95ad start + 1



    Really hoping someone on this forum is able to help!

    Thanks in advance guys,
    Chris
     

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  5. SuperMatt macrumors 6502a

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  6. christophercarr86 macrumors newbie

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    I have already used pikify3.1.v12 & captainpikefix_black_pkg.zip and is working well.
    Am I able to enable SIP again temporarily ??
    Or can I installed Boot64 instead even though the captainpikefix has already been installed ?
     
  7. macbwizard macrumors 6502

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    Salvaged my install by replacing the kernel file after being stuck in a reboot loop on a 2,1. Thanks so much for the guidance! Guess this thing is nearing end of life :(
     
  8. Argyboy macrumors member

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    Absolutely not. Just be careful about installing OS security updates in future! Application updates (Safari and iTunes) should still be fine to install.

    I'm planning on keeping my 2,1 going for at least another couple of years on El Capitan.
     
  9. doalwa macrumors newbie

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    Wow, this thread saved me. Thankfully I was able to get my Mac Pro 1.1 booting again by simply copying over the kernel file from the 2017-005 update.

    I guess the writing is finally on the wall for us Mac Pro 1.1 users. Having to manually fiddle around with system files doesn't bode well for the future. Oh well, I'll try to keep my machine going for as long as possible.
     
  10. jbarley, Mar 5, 2018
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    jbarley macrumors 68040

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    Enough with all the "doom-n-gloom" these tough ole birds will still be able to do everything they do so well today, next year and following years after that.
    So we have to hack them now and then, and tinker with the hardware a bit, that's what keeps them interesting, at least that's how I choose to see it.:D
     
  11. christophercarr86 macrumors newbie

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    I got an interesting challenge for you guys! Can anyone successfully install this app on their hacked version of 10.11.6 ?
    https://www.uaudio.com/ox/app

    Every time I try, it will download OK, copy to the applications folder, but will not open from the applications folder to run.
    Obviously Apple and Universal Audio will not support it because of our configuration.

    It says the requirement is OSX Sierra, but I successfully installed it on my Macbook Pro running El Capitan so that is not the issue.

    PLEASE HELP!
     
  12. Unclaimed macrumors newbie

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    I'm having the same issue.
     
  13. AL1630 macrumors 6502

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    Try setting your system clock back to 1/1/2016. The installer may need to think it's the most current version of macOS.
     
  14. rthpjm macrumors 6502a

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    If the Install OS X El Capitan app has been pre-modified, then it will not run directly. It will fail the consistency checks. The App is signed by Apple, then someone has modified it, and thus breaks the signing integrity.

    Please read page 1 post 1 of this thread. Then maybe read my posts on page 56 (see my signature)
     
  15. macbwizard macrumors 6502

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    Is anyone having issues with the Photos.app? Photos taken with my iPhone 8 are blurry when synced through iCloud. I think it might have to do with the new codec that the iPhone is using? Any tips?
     
  16. rkanaga macrumors member

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    Well I've finally gone to the dark side and bought a 2013 Mac Pro as I need to maintain the latest OS security patches for my work files. I have one problem though. I have some music software (Logic etc) that won't run on High Sierra. I don't really want to pay £199 to upgrade it. I've got a clone of my old El Capitan HD, but of course that has the modified Boot Efi and won't boot on the new Mac Pro (!) Can anyone let me have a copy of the original El Capitan Boot Efi so that I can modify it back! (somewhat ironic I know, I should have kept a copy.)

    I can't install a fresh copy of El Capitan as the El Cap installer won't run on High Sierra.

    Many thanks

    Robin


    (PS the trusty 1,1 is going to server heaven will still be put to use!)
     
  17. rthpjm macrumors 6502a

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    Hello rkanaga,

    If you have a copy of the unmodified Apple version of ‘Install OS X El Capitan.app’, then you can get a copy of the boot.efi from there.

    It’s probably easiest to do this from the Terminal rather than the Finder. This is because some folders and files have the hidden flag turned on which means the Finder will not show them.

    Code:
    cd ~
    open /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app/Contents/SharedSupport/InstallESD.dmg
    open /Volumes/OS\ X\ Install\ ESD/BaseSystem.dmg
    cp /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi ~
    diskutil eject /Volumes/OS\ X\ Base\ System
    diskutil eject /Volumes/OS\ X\ Install\ ESD
    
    That should put a copy of the unmodified boot.efi into your home folder (~).

    Copy that to your old disk in the two usual locations.
    You might need to elevate your privileges (sudo -s) to perform the copy at this point, and you might need to be booted off another partition (which I'm am assuming)

    P.S. You can do this from your nMP, just put the 'Install OS X El Capitan' app into the Applications folder of the nMP (or put it at some other path and amend the first open command to suit).
     
  18. RobertJB macrumors member

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    Hello Members,

    I have made the jump to El Capitan 10.11.6.
    The first installation works just fine.
    Run the Boot64 and run the update of 10.11.6.
    Now the problem starts. The system keeps rebooting (boot screen with Apple logo. for a second the progress indicator) and then a reboot.

    I have followed the instructions from post-1390 and 1391 and the youtube Pikifi Version 14.

    What did I do wrong?
    Is it just re-installing the Boot.efi the make the system boot correctly?
     
  19. jbarley macrumors 68040

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    Sounds like you've run afoul of the dreaded Security update 2018-001 boot loop problem.
    Lots of info on this issue in this thread starting back around post#3860.
    Good luck...
     
  20. RobertJB macrumors member

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    Jbarley,

    thanks for pointing this out to me.
    The installation I did was a clean install would it not be easier to do a new install and run all the updates with the exception of the 2018-001 Security update.
    Or should I boot in my Lion version and use terminal to re-fit some files?

    thanks,
     
  21. rkanaga macrumors member

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    Got it

    Thank you so much

    Robin
     
  22. jbarley macrumors 68040

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    That's the path I would choose, when done just Right-Click on the 2018-001 update and select "Hide" and you're good to go.
     
  23. nailujw macrumors newbie

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    Hi, I wonder if I can install on an external USB disk this way, and use this as a base image to clone onto 1,1 and 2,1 macs pros?


     
  24. Lewis M macrumors newbie

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    Thanks to the great work here I have 10.11 on my 1,1 :)

    I also pulled some 3ghz X5365 chips from a dead 2,1 and dropped them in...
    Running all fine.
    Processors not recognised in About this Mac.
    Geekbench is around 8000

    I’m wondering if I need to do this firmware update to get full performance from my 1,1 mac?? (Updating the firmware to 2,1)
    http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,1094.0.html
    BUT...
    ...does anyone know if this will break my Pikified OS?

    Thanks very much :)
     
  25. rthpjm, Mar 27, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2018

    rthpjm macrumors 6502a

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    The firmware update is a good idea. It will not break your pikified OS installation.

    Others might know more, but as far as I know there is no real performance enhancement, but it will identify your newer chipset correctly. Most users who put newer CPUs into their 1,1 choose to install that firmware update making the machine into a 2,1 (including myself).
    --- Post Merged, Mar 27, 2018 ---
    Sort of “yes”, and sort of “no”.

    The Pikify tool builds a “read-only” bootable Install image. The image is intended (by Apple) to be written to optical media such as a DVD. We choose to write it to a USB device instead. (The “no” part)

    When you boot from this device it will go into the Installer. You can choose the same USB device as the install target for the full Mac OS El Capitan. When you complete the installation your machine might boot from the USB into the full Mac OS X El Capitan. I am hesitant because I have not tried this combination, and because the early Mac Pros sometimes have difficulty booting from a USB device (remember the installer is intended to boot from a non-writable media which usually means a legacy boot sequence, whereas the full Mac OS is intended to boot from writable disk with HFS+ and EFI. Apple obviously preferred fast bus speed for the OS, mainly the PCI bus or FireWire.) (The “yes” part)

    Try it, report back and let everyone here know how successful you were.
     

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