MP All Models 2007, 2,1 Dual Quad 3Ghz revival : DUST !

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  1. MIKX macrumors 65816

    MIKX

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    This week I revived a 2007. 2,1 Dual Quad 3Ghz that a Japanese friend managed to cripple.

    1. The CPU B ( lowerCPU ) 3 Ghz X5365 is definitely dead so I have removed it + heatsink & sealed the motherboard socket with plastic until a replacement arrives from AliExpress.

    2. Installed two spinner HDDs

    HDD 1. El Capitan 10.11.6 - Everything basically working OK except Facetime. I haven't checked every app
    yet.

    HDD 2. Windows 7 64 bit - Everything working OK.

    3.
    Installed an EFI flashed HIS HD 5870 1Gb. Working.

    4. This is the shocker . . . the amount of DUST I found under the CPUs made me cringe involuntarily.

    ( For CPU novitiates, removing 2,1 CPUs & heatsinks is pretty easy as the CPU(s) are inserted to the socket and correctly tortioned by the CPU CLAMP. )

    I advise everyone owning one of these old cMPs to think about devoting an afternoon to de-dust it thoroughly. Including the cheesegrater holes too ! :) - I'm serious.



    This is what I found under the CPUs.

    Both motherboard sockets were like this.
    02 Dual Quad 3 Ghz 2007 2,1 DUST.JPG

    CPU A ( top if cMP is vertical ))
    01 Dual quad 3Ghz 2007 2,1 DUST .JPG

    CPU B ( lower ) It could well be that CPU B got "cooked" !
    03 Dual quad 3Ghz 2007 2,1 DUST.JPG

    Very hard, deteriorated thermal paste - took ages to remove, almost like solder.
    04 very old thermal paste.JPG

    This photo was taken before final cleaning to mint condition.
    05  Dual quad 3Ghz 2007 2,1 DUST.JPG

    Conclusion :

    The hardest part of this operation was removing the REAR FAN but now I can remove & re-install both CPUs & heatsinks in about 10 minutes - practice makes perfect.

    I gently cleaned ( with isopropyl alcohol + soft haired calligraphy brush ) and re-thermal pasted both CPUs both the dead CPU B X5365 and the motherboard CPU B motherboard socket. = No joy.

    If, after the re-placement 3 Ghz X5365 arrives that BOTH CPUs do not boot up then I will leave this 2,1 cMP with just the TOP CPU A installed, after all a single 3 Ghz X5365 is nothing to sneeze at and this 2,1 in it's current ( cleaned ) state is more than adequate for my Japanese friend's needs.

    Next I'm going to do some serious research as to what are the most causes for CPUs to fail.

    As it stands, this 2,1 is running very well now in both El Capitan ( updated from Mavericks 10.9.5 ) despite only having one CPU running. :)
     
  2. Alex Sanders74 macrumors 6502

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    That's one crazy amount of dust.... Kudos to you for bringing it back from the dead.
     
  3. Macschrauber macrumors 6502

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  4. donluca macrumors regular

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    I've dealt recently with thermal paste so dried up that was basically cemented on the CPU.

    No amount of heat could make it softer.

    There was no way but take an exacto knife and very, very, very slowly and gently scrape away the thermal paste, trying not to damage the IHS. Something I'm not really looking forward doing it again soon.
     
  5. Macschrauber macrumors 6502

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    3.2 Ghz Mac Pro 3.1 have somelike liquid metal paste, could have been that.

    Normally dry paste can be dissolved by adding Isopropyl or alike.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 20, 2019 ---
    btw this is a real 2.1, can bee seen by the 6 heat pipes on the heatsink.
     
  6. donluca macrumors regular

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    It wasn't a mac pro. One was a GPU and another one a CPU from a PC.

    I've tried everything to no avail, the thing was hell to remove, I had to change 2 blades on the exacto knife because even if I didn't apply force or pressure, the continuous scraping eroded the blade little by little.
     
  7. MIKX thread starter macrumors 65816

    MIKX

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    donluca.

    You could try "Australian Eucalytpus Oil" one of it's great properties is that it can emulsify adhesives .. it "MIGHT" loosen up that thermal paste . . I would put some on a cloth, put the cloth on the CPU face, cover it with saran wrap and leave it overnight.
     
  8. donluca macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely give it a try next time, should the need arise!
     

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