2007 Formula One Thread

[Squonk]

Ferrari's Brawn to be Honda boss.

Quite the coup.

This is very exciting! I wonder if he'll bring any Ferrari documents with him.... (just kidding!)

 

[iGav]

No words needed.

 

[M. Malone]

This is very exciting! I wonder if he'll bring any Ferrari documents with him.... (just kidding!)

Ross Brawn is the breathe of fresh air Jenson Button has been looking for, I have been waiting for Button to realize that Honda has no hope. He is too good of a driver to be with Honda. He's easily top of the second tier with Massa and Heidfeld, he just hasn't gotten the hardware yet. I REALLY hope Ross Brawn will be able to produce a decent car for him and help him start winning races. Such a shame to see such a driver waste his talents with a team that gets slower as years go by.

 

[iGav]

Top 11 (last update: 15:18)

1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari F2007 1:22.270 40
2 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren MP4-22 1:22.687 + 0.417 48
3 Gary Paffett McLaren MP4-22 1:23.349 + 1.079 33
4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault R27 1:23.412 + 1.142 47
5 Luca Badoer Ferrari F2007 1:23.879 + 1.609 38
6 Franck Montagny Toyota TF107 1:24.047 + 1.777 30
7 Jarno Trulli Toyota TF107 1:24.413 + 2.143 23
8 Sebastian Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso STR2 1:24.559 + 2.289 40
9 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1.07 1:24.621 + 2.351 29
10 Nico Rosberg Williams FW29 1:24.689 + 2.419 22
11 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing RB3 1:25.032 + 2.762 18

 

[Markleshark]

Todt replaced as Ferrari F1 boss.

Changing times at Ferrari. Full Story.

 

[Lord Blackadder]

If Shu wanted another title I don't think it would be much trouble, would it?

I was tired of Schu winning races and was ready to see a new winner...but Alonso has soured with me. if it hadn't been for Kimi's surprise victory in the Championship I'd say "welcome back Michael".

 

[R.Youden]

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:21.922 64
2. Badoer Ferrari (B) 1:22.129 76
3. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:22.687 63
4. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:22.802 81
5. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.883 56
6. Paffett McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:23.008 46
7. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:23.187 66
8. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:23.332 55
9. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:23.624 46
10. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:23.671 75
11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:23.847 58
12. Montagny Toyota (B) 1:23.861 61
13. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:24.048 77
14. Zuber Honda (B) 1:24.065 77
15. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:24.193 51
16. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:24.246 70
17. Rossiter Honda (B) 1:24.480 69
18. Chandhok Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:24.896 39
19. van der Garde Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:25.317 84
20. Rodriguez Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:26.973 87

That Schumacher bloke doesn't look too bad, maybe give him a go in a feeder team to see if he can find his feet in F1?

Maybe this should be the start of the 2008 F1 thread?

 

[smueboy]

.... which is HERE

 

[iGav]

Because this concerns the 2007 season, I decided this thread was the more suitable of the two.

Ecclestone warns over appeal verdict.

I'd forgotten it was tomorrow.

 

[R.Youden]

Because this concerns the 2007 season, I decided this thread was the more suitable of the two.

Ecclestone warns over appeal verdict.

I'd forgotten it was tomorrow.

I agree with the little man, it is just crazy that the FIA can't set down a list of rules with a list of punishments. Now if McLaren win the appeal will Ferrari appeal over Hamilton not being properly penalised for using two sets of wet tires on Friday? (I know they can't because of time issues but if they knew that this was going to happen I bet they would have).

 

[iGav]

McLaren lawyer seeks title for Hamilton.

Only a couple of days after McLaren CEO Martin Whitmarsh said...

"Finding a way to award the drivers' championship to Lewis retrospectively is not at all, however, what this is about."

 

[iGav]

Decision day today.

Will Kimi remain as the 2007 World Drivers Champion, or will the sport see its first ever rookie champion?

I have a feeling it might just swing McLarens way.

 

[iGav]

Pitpass reporting that the International Court of Appeal have rejected the appeal.

But...

We repeat, this has not been officially confirmed but does come from a very good source.

 

[R.Youden]

It will be interesting as to the exact ruling.

If they have totally rejected the appeal and BMW and Williams get no penalty then that is wrong, they broke the rules and must be penalised. However if the teams have been penalised but not the drivers then that is fairer.

Lets see...

 

[iGav]

If they have totally rejected the appeal and BMW and Williams get no penalty then that is wrong, they broke the rules and must be penalised. However if the teams have been penalised but not the drivers then that is fairer.

I didn't think it had be proven with certainty that they had? hence the Stewards original rejection?

 

[iGav]

DECISION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF APPEAL.

Having heard the explanations of both parties and having examined the various documents and other evidence, the Court decided that the appeal lodged by Vodafone McLaren Mercedes is inadmissible.

 

[R.Youden]

What I find concerning is there was doubt over the ambient temperature! Now the FIA provide live timing during the race and included in this data is a temperature reading, surely they can sync the time of the stops to the ambient temperature.

Even so, why have a rule that they obviously can't enforce?

This has just created a load of bad publicity for Formula One because, procedurally, there was a momentous cock-up.

Thats the FIA for you

Probably the bloke supposed to be doing the temperatures was busy making sure Alonso and Hamilton had the same equipment available to them.

 

[iGav]

What I find concerning is there was doubt over the ambient temperature! Now the FIA provide live timing during the race and included in this data is a temperature reading, surely they can sync the time of the stops to the ambient temperature.

Even so, why have a rule that they obviously can't enforce?

This has just created a load of bad publicity for Formula One because, procedurally, there was a momentous cock-up.

Thats the FIA for you

Williams Statement is enlightening.

 

[AlBDamned]

Williams Statement is enlightening.

Enlightening in the fact that they didn't have the balls to issue such a statement before or during the hearing? It's another level of farce that it went all this way only to be rejected.

However, I'm glad no points have been affected, but it would have been amusing if they had, if only to read your reaction, Gav.

 

[iGav]

Enlightening in the fact that they didn't have the balls to issue such a statement before or during the hearing?

Well, it's certainly preferable to having the CEO speak of not wanting to win the championship in the courts, then the first words to leave the mouth of their solicitors is, their driver should be champion.

It's another level of farce that it went all this way only to be rejected.

For one second, imagine the uproar had the FIA refused to allow the appeal.

At least this way it was dealt with in a reasonably transparent fashion. Though McLaren should perhaps have followed the correct appeals procedure to start with, that would've helped.

However, I'm glad no points have been affected, but it would have been amusing if they had, if only to read your reaction, Gav.

 

[AlBDamned]

For one second, imagine the uproar had the FIA refused to allow the appeal.

At least this way it was dealt with in a reasonably transparent fashion. Though McLaren should perhaps have followed the correct appeals procedure to start with, that would've helped.

Definitely a year to forget for the Woking team bar Lewis' exploits. I'm sure most people will find them quite deserving of their pit lane placing next season.

 

[R.Youden]

Definitely a year to forget for the Woking team bar Lewis' exploits. I'm sure most people will find them quite deserving of their pit lane placing next season.

This whole scenario is a farce. How can you have a rule if you can't enforce it because you have no way of measuring the ambient temperature? Utter joke.

As for the McLaren pit lane, the best bit is that at almost all the circuits they won't be able to get their massive motor-home parked! Maybe Lewis will have to do his golden craps in a porta-loo!

 

[iGav]

I'm sure most people will find them quite deserving of their pit lane placing next season.

I don't. I don't think they even deserve to be in next years pit lane.

Sam Michael's interview is even more enlightening.

Especially...

ITV-F1.com: You state that your fuel temperature was 31 degrees. How did that compare to the other teams at the ICA?

SM: Well that was very close to the temperatures that we know BMW and Ferrari were running from the ICA hearing. However McLaren refused to give theirs so we don't know what they were running.

And...

I don't know how much it cost them to turn up with the four or five lawyers they had. You wouldn't have expected them to spend that just to clarify a regulation when you can turn up for free at any TWG and do the same thing.

And...

But still it is being painted as if there is something underhand going on and that is disappointing.

We play a very straight game and if there is implication that it is not like that – and I don't mean just Williams, but at the FIA's level – I'm sorry that is just not the case here.