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2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro
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I was thinking that if Apple goes 8 core than maybe the baseline will be the 8 core 2.66. This cheaper price would allow them some room to put and extra gig of Ram in there and maybe a better baseline video card.
I also think they might do this to keep the 8 core 3.16 farther on the top end, the 8 core 2.83 might be a little too close to 3ghz for them to feel cool about the huge price jump.
I also think they might do this to keep the 8 core 3.16 farther on the top end, the 8 core 2.83 might be a little too close to 3ghz for them to feel cool about the huge price jump.
Going all 8 core for the Mac Pro would also create an even more obvious need (and spot) for a single socket quad Kentsfield mini-tower.
It's something I've thought about too. The case for the 2.83GHz as the base I think is that it's a bigger number (in addition to being quad) and costs the same. Apple should have no problem getting that, 2GB of RAM and a newer GPU in for $2500. On the other hand, Penryn is faster anyway, and I see what you are saying about 2.83 being a little to close to 3GHz.
I would think it'll be either 3.16GHz, 2.83GHz and 2.33GHz, or 3.16GHz, 2.66GHz and 2.00GHz. The former being marketed on being "much" faster and all 8 core, the latter on just being a move to 8 core and newer technologies (I'm expecting Apple to go on alot about certain advantages of Penryn).
I think the second route would also enable the Mac Pro base price to drop to $2000 if Apple thought that a prudent move, or anywhere inbetween, maybe $2199 or $2299. Or if they have other changes planned, rather than just the minor expected bumps, it could enable their costing to fit better.
Not anymore...
Interesting!
Mac Pros with 2.8GHz for base, and an unreleased 3.2Ghz just for Apple on the high end
Interesting!
Mac Pros with 2.8GHz for base, and an unreleased 3.2Ghz just for Apple on the high end
The only problem is I've got a feeling that Apple already has the processors that they want in hand.
I doubt the 1600MHz FSD Harpertowns were available in time.
But that's just pure speculation on my part.
Well vendors have had 1600MHz FSB processors for many months apparently and Intel seem happy to use Apple's presence as a showcase and let them have things. Really I just want to get some more speculation going, but time will tell. Would certainly give the Mac Pro some edge. With the whole balancing act of new processors against whatever AMD have, I feel details are going to be kept very close to chests.
I've really got to thank AMD for Barcelona.
I seriously doubt we would see 1600MHz Harpertowns this year if it wasn't for Barcelona.
We know what you meant - competition can be a good thing for the consumer.
Of course, Apple has no competition for legal OSX machines, so whether Apple will sell Harpertowns with a 1600 MHz bus when Dell/HP/IBM/Supermicro and the rest start to sell them is a matter of conjecture.
Apple waited 6 months after everyone else was shipping Clovertowns, and then shipped them at one-half clock multiplier faster than the rest. Was Apple six months late, two months early, or what?
I often think the same way, but then I try to keep convincing myself that I'm wrong
I bought my first mac! I coudl hold out for the mac pro refresh so I think this will get me oriented and hold me over till they come out. I got a baseline mac mini and honestly it's pretty powerfull compared to my old pcs. I love it, I am completely sold on the mac concept. I will be a life long customer (given my cash flow).
I was at my local apple reseller today, and they said there was no way apple would be making a hardware change to the mac pro this year.
There Is A Way. Question Is Will Apple Go That Way Sooner Than Later?
There is a way. The question is will they exercise their option to do so. Your reseller is probably not informed about the Intel Road Map. We know what it will be. Only question is when? i still think it will happen by November but it's only a GUESS not a prediction.
No offense, but I suspect Apple resellers know as much about Apple's product plans, as car dealerships know about their parent manufacturer's upcoming car plans. Which is to say: nothing. Their job is to sell you a new computer (car) now, not in 6 months. So they'll say what they can to put you into that computer (car) right now.
Apple knows. Intel may know. Unlikely anyone else knows.
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I can almost guarantee you that your local Apple reseller has no special insight.
That information is being kept very secretively inside Cupertino.
I doubt that anybody from any of the Apple stores is privy to this knowledge.
That´s what they´ll tell you as long as there are "Outdated" Mac Pros in stock.
It would be very interesting to know how Mac Pro sales are going lately. Anyone got links?
Waiting and waiting for new Mac Pros..
It's probably an upward spike.
The embarrassing graphics in the Aluminum Imacs are probably pushing quite a few people to the humongous Mac Pros.
Now if only Apple had an option for a headless system (AKA mini-tower) somewhere between the incredibly contrained Mac Mini and the incredibly huge (and expensive) Mac Pro...
Still trying to figure out how my July purchased, 8 core, 3.0ghz, with 9gb ram Mac Pro and 30" ACD are "outdated"......
Keep waiting guys - meantime I will keep ripping my 600+ DVD collection in Handbrake at about 25 minutes encode time a pop
TW
PS - When the new one finally get's announced, and you have waited a month for it to start shipping, then another 4 months to make sure any intial bugs are ironed out, then another 3 months for the GPU update that didn't come out to start with - well then you will be mid release timetable and we can all start over waiting for the 2009 update with 16 cores and an aircraft simulator built in.......
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