2009 Mac Pro beats ASUS ROG Laptop

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by HugeHungarian, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. HugeHungarian macrumors member

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    Ok, so I've had a 2009 MP (flashed 5,1) for about a year now. Bought it with 2x E5520s at 2.26ghz, 24gb ram, and a HD 5770. I had been going back and forth over getting a non-EFI card for it or not, as so many do, but finally decided to do it.

    This was being used solely as a work station for video and photo editing, which brings me to my next point. I also have a new ASUS GL502VM ROG gaming laptop. The specs are as follows: i7 7700hq 3.5ghz-ish, 12gb ram, gtx 1060 3gb running windows 10. I absolutely LOVE this laptop! It has handled everything I've thrown at it on ultra, keeping an average of 60+ fps. Games I run regularly: Overwatch (Epic), Starcraft 1 &2, HOTS, Destiny 2 BETA, Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, SW Battlefront, Mass Effect trilogy (mainly 3 multiplayer), and maybe some more that I'm not thinking of. I can play all of these games maxed out, with no issues. Sometimes Crysis 3 will dip into the high 40s on Ultra and full MSAA if there's a lot of particles in frame, but generally stays in the 60s and 70s.

    Back to the lowly Mac Pro. I went for a PNY GTX 1060 3gb OC XLR8, since I have a solid baseline for it. I was also worried about diminishing returns by going for too high of a card on an old machine. I also never saw VRAM use above 2700 on the aforementioned titles.

    So, what are the results? Nothing short of AMAZING! This old MP is running with the slow processors, slow ram, and a decent mid-range graphics card. As far as benchmarks go, it beats the ASUS laptop in Unigine Heaven: Ultra, tessellation Normal by about 200 points, Firestrike by about 200-300, and 3d mark Time Spy by over 500 points! The actual gaming holds up just as well. I will get some benchmark screen shots up for proof.

    So to anyone out there wondering if it's worth it, imo YES it is! Again, I'm not sure about diminishing returns on bigger cards, since I don't have them to test. So use your best judgement. As far as my experience, absolute success and couldn't be happier. Should be interesting to see what higher clock CPUs and RAM gets me. The official CUDA support with Apple (Pascal cards) should also help with editing work.

    Hope this helps someone, as this is the kind of thing that I was looking for while researching.
     
  2. thornslack macrumors regular

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    Gaming laptops :p

    Glad your cMP is chugging along. Mine is still crushing out the gaming at 1440p with Titan Xp no sweat. I still play some sc2 myself if you're ever in the market. Enjoy!
     
  3. HugeHungarian thread starter macrumors member

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    Haha, I know. I told myself I'd never do it. At the time, it was such a deal for power on the go, since we travel often. Definitely is like holding onto a little jet engine in game, lol. The tower is silent in comparison :)
     
  4. HugeHungarian thread starter macrumors member

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    So one thing I got wrong, that I wasn't expecting, is that I don't get a boot screen with windows either. I keep searching, but can't find a direct answer. So, I'll just ask directly what I'm searching.

    Why does Windows 10 running on a cMP not have a boot screen when running a non-EFI graphics card? When I put the 5770 back in, I get the Windows boot screen. I was under the impression that the whole boot screen thing was solely an OSX issue.
     
  5. h9826790 macrumors 604

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    The boot screen issue is Mac thing, actually, nothing to do with OSX.

    The Mac won't initial the graphic card without "correct" EFI until driver available. So, no matter you are running Linux, DOS, Windows, MacOS... display won't available until driver loaded. In other words, no boot screen.
     
  6. HugeHungarian thread starter macrumors member

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    Makes sense. Don't worry, I'm not going to ask: "So how do I flash it?" haha
     
  7. HugeHungarian thread starter macrumors member

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    For any of the gamers out there that are interested, he is a video I just made of some Overwatch game play. Recorded via GeForce Shadowplay at In-game resolution (1080p60), on MAX settings. FPS stayed above 100 most of the time. Testing Crysis, and Mass Effect next.

    Feel free to ask me any questions!

     
  8. bushidounohana macrumors member

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    Thanks for posting! Recently picked up a cMP 4,1 flashed to 5,1 and threw in a 1060. I've been debating the installation of Windows 10, but worried that having a non-flashed card was going to hamper performance too much on the Windows side to make it worth it. Good to know that you're getting a good experience, I might just have to give it a toss for myself! Keep the vids and such coming!
     
  9. HugeHungarian thread starter macrumors member

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    It was definitely a good move for me. I just installed Windows 10 on a separate internal HDD, that way I knew I wouldn't harm my original OS. Since Nvidia provides drivers for Pascal cards in OSX, they perform really well in OSX; but I do most of my work and gaming in Windows, and there have been zero disappointments. I can't wait till I get higher clocked CPUs in this machine, but even as it is now, it's very good even by current standards!
     

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