2009 vs 2015

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  1. Gustav072 macrumors newbie

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    I'm thinking about buying a new 2015 macbook pro 13 inch to replace my old 2009 macbook pro 15 inch.
    My current macbook pro had the following specs:

    The MacBook Pro "Core 2 Duo" 2.53 15" (SD - Mid-2009) features a 45 nm "Penryn" 2.53 GHz Intel "Core 2 Duo" processor (P8700), with two independent processor "cores" on a single silicon chip, a 3 MB shared "on chip" level 2 cache, a 1066 MHz frontside bus, 4 GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM (PC3-8500) installed in pairs (two 2 GB modules), a 250 GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM) hard drive, an 8X DL "SuperDrive", a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M "graphics processor with 256 MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory"

    How much faster is the 2015 Rmbp 128 gig model compared to my old one? Or should i wait for the 2016 model to come available. I use mostly lightroom and some light gaming now and then.

    Ps Sorry for the crappy english.
     
  2. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - A gazillion times, almost literally.

    In serious numbers, the CPU is about 3 times faster. The disk drive, measured conservatively, is at least 20 times faster.
    In actual use, the difference is unimaginable if you haven't tried it.

    Those old marketing lines are pretty funny nowadays. :D
     
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    jerwin macrumors 65816

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    Intel's integrated chipsets keep getting better, so waiting until after WWDC may be worthwhile. But even a 2015 model would be a substantial upgrade over what you have; even if you had upgraded your laptop with more memory and an SSD (which I'm led to understand is rather trivial).

    As for games-- I'm sure you've noticed that games no longer support the nVidia 9400m. But a lot of games are said to run fine on a Iris 6100/Iris 540.
     
  5. Fishrrman macrumors G3

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    leman has it right in the post above.

    Before you buy a 2015 model, wait for the release of the 2016's, which are supposedly due in June.

    Then, make a decision:
    - Buy a new one, or
    - Buy a 2015 model at closeout pricing.
     
  6. wombat94 macrumors member

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    I just did this EXACT thing.

    I had the same model 2009 MBP as you described except for the fact that I had already upgraded to 8GB of RAM and a 480 GB SSD.

    Even with those upgrades, the 13" 2015 rMBP is light years faster than the old, trusty 2009 MBP.

    I have had the new machine for about a week. I will do side-by-side benchmarks on both machines tonight if I can (Geekbench and Black Magic disk) and will post them.

    I had considered waiting for the 2016s, but found a great deal on the 2.9GHz/512GB SSD model at Microcenter and decided to jump on it.
     
  7. Gustav072 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks everybody for the answers! And i cant wait to see the side by side comparison wombat94.
     
  8. RoboWarriorSr macrumors 6502a

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    GPU is also approximately 10x times faster as well (9400m vs Iris 6100).
    --- Post Merged, May 31, 2016 ---
    I have a 2015 13" and 2009 15" and even with the SSD upgrade with 8 GB of RAM, I'm seeing notable difference in tasks like web browsing and video watching, the 2009 definitely has issues keeping up with some of the simple tasks I throw at it. Web browsing easily pings the CPU at over 90% for quite some time while loading pages while my 2015 only hit over 80% occasionally. I have framerate drops utilizing mpv.io which uses both CPU and GPU (istat show anywhere from 40% to 100% CPU use) while my 2015 barely goes over 15% CPU use.
     
  9. Gustav072 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thats a bigger step up in gpu power then I thought! How big off an improvement could i see with the 2016 13 inch model, with the new skylake and all.
     
  10. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    USB 3.0 is quite nice to have, too. Not as fast as a 4 channel PCI bus, but backups should be less of a pain now.
    Also, intel processors have supported Quick Sync-- this would allow your computer to mirror the screen over Airplay, for instance.
     
  11. RoboWarriorSr macrumors 6502a

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    The Iris 550 is approximately 50% faster than the Iris 6100
     
  12. wombat94 macrumors member

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    Ran the benchmarks this evening.

    Old MBP: 2009 15" 2.53GHz Core2Duo, 8GB RAM, 480 GB PNY CS2110 SSD, Geforce 9400M

    New MBP: 2015 13" Retina MBP Broadwell Core i5 2.9GHz, 8 GM Ram, 512 SSD, Integrated Iris 6100 Pro

    CPU (Geekbench 3 32-bit):
    Old: Single Core - 1398, Multi-Core - 2588
    New: Single Core - 3152, Multi-Core - 6700

    New is 2.25x faster in Single Core, 2.5x faster in multi-core

    Disk (Blackmagic Disk Speed Test)
    Old: Write - 104.8 MB/s, Read - 134.9 MB/s
    New: Write - 1396.8 MB/s, Read - 1380.1 MB/s
    New is 13.3x faster in write speed, 10.2x faster in read speed

    Cinebench R15
    Old: 4.68fps
    New: 28.55fps

    New is 6.1x faster than old.
     
  13. Gustav072 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thats a whole lot faster then my old rusty mbp. I think i'm gonna wait for the 2016 Rmbp 13, thats should be even faster and more future proof. Thank u for comparison wombat94!
     
  14. Montymitch macrumors regular

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    I'll get flamed here, but I upgraded from a 2010 15" to a 2014 15" and didn't notice life-changing performance gains. Processing video was definitely faster, but for day to day use I can't say the upgrade was justified. Both machines are top spec with SSDs, but I have to say the old machine was more stable. I get the spinny ball on my new machine and it's ridiculous.
     
  15. throAU macrumors 601

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    Wait until the end of the month.

    I have the machine you are considering though.

    In general use it is snappier than my 2011 15" i7 was.

    The 15 was faster in some isolated circumstances, but not much.


    edit:
    Get "future proof" out of your head though. Buy a machine with the expectation of replacement in 3-5 years. Due to either obsolescence, or hardware failure.
     

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