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DanTSX

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Me too, I always saw him like an evil genius …. Impossible to not have some level of admiration ( like Elon Musk). I write my letters to my staff similar to Job, I like that style.
I’d tell my subordinates “here walk with me” then hop on a treadmill, and make them pretend to walk in place while taking notes and asspatting my genius.
 

TheOldChevy

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May 12, 2020
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I like small cars, small phones, small everything. So really easier to organise. The only things that I don't like small are my main screen and my apartment. Everything else can be small.
 
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needsomecoffee

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I think a small phone would have been an issue.

I have a bigger issue that this level of internal communications should have been released as part of an Epic lawsuit. Regardless of the issues, or desires for us to learn, I think there is an inherent need that communications need to be protected. Sure, there are smoking gun emails and I believe they can become part of the record, but all the other details that came out about plans, products and issues that had nothing to do with this lawsuit should never become accessible. There is no inherent right to know.

I know as an employee a business has the right to review my emails. But the press and lawyers do not earn that right by filing a lawsuit regarding App Store pricing, etc. and then have a right to see everything and disclose it.

Maybe I'm crazy, but don't we all expect a right to privacy? Lots going on in that field now.

You have the right to privacy in your home until the police have probable cause to suspect you have committed a crime, and evidence exists in your home. Under your model, let's say you and your wife murder someone, and hide the murder weapon and other evidence incriminating you in the special room the Constitution allows you "to never ever be searched for evidence of crime." Imagine the effect of that.

Discovery and records retention laws are probably the most effective tools for keeping companies honest. Discovery enable the search for evidence of a crime. I've worked in a situation where it was hard to avoid making decisions to extract monopolistic rents because we had what was in fact a monopoly product position (due to technical prowess). The threat of a law suit and discovery were always prevalent in how decisions were made, and kept us honest. I shudder to think what companies would do if they could hide things permanently notably when knowingly making decisions they understand are not lawful. And it should be noted that we have records retention laws because companies used to "hide their unlawful decisions" by destroying the evidence.
 

Mike-G

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I think that since the iPhone 5 was mentioned before the nano, the nano would have kept the 3.5" display from the iPhone 4, with the iPhone 5 getting the larger 4" display. Similar to the regular and plus size iPhones since iPhone 6.
 

ian87w

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Feb 22, 2020
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Wait, so this means everything Apple is doing now under Tim Cook actually had been in discussion under Jobs? iPhone nano -> iPhone mini, TV subscriptions -> Apple TV+…
Is Apple Watch the only thing Tim Cook did then, or was Apple Watch already considered under Jobs as well?
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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You have the right to privacy in your home until the police have probable cause to suspect you have committed a crime, and evidence exists in your home. Under your model, let's say you and your wife murder someone, and hide the murder weapon and other evidence incriminating you in the special room the Constitution allows you "to never ever be searched for evidence of crime." Imagine the effect of that.

Discovery and records retention laws are probably the most effective tools for keeping companies honest. Discovery enable the search for evidence of a crime. I've worked in a situation where it was hard to avoid making decisions to extract monopolistic rents because we had what was in fact a monopoly product position (due to technical prowess). The threat of a law suit and discovery were always prevalent in how decisions were made, and kept us honest. I shudder to think what companies would do if they could hide things permanently notably when knowingly making decisions they understand are not lawful. And it should be noted that we have records retention laws because companies used to "hide their unlawful decisions" by destroying the evidence.
Wait a second. Your company excelled in what it did and as a result had a monopoly on the companies services? Was it a monopoly or was it the market competition was so poor clients didn't use the competitions services.
 

Morgenland

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The Apple Watch Cellular is definitely the iPhone Nano.
In Steve Job's time, it was not yet possible to realize such an integration density.
 
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PlayUltimate

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Wait, so this means everything Apple is doing now under Tim Cook actually had been in discussion under Jobs? iPhone nano -> iPhone mini, TV subscriptions -> Apple TV+…
Is Apple Watch the only thing Tim Cook did then, or was Apple Watch already considered under Jobs as well?
With the long development cycles and well-planned upgrade roadmaps, it would not be surprising that some of SJs ideas are still coming out. And TC's ideas may still be in the pipeline.
 

KaliYoni

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Feb 19, 2016
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The Who Are We? section of the email reveals that Apple, at least in 2010, is tracking and probably has a target for average employee age. I wonder if Apple is similar to FB and GOOG in "preferring" fresh-out-of-undergrad and early 20s people or if it follows a think different paradigm. It also would be interesting to find out if Cook's view on average age is the same as the view Jobs held.
 

MacBH928

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May 17, 2008
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If he was alive and saw the PRO MAX he would've died of a heart attack

This is one thing Steve was wrong about. iPhones were about to get much larger, not much smaller.

Not exactly, he might have released a small phone and sold a gazillions of them. Thats what jobs does.
 
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