That's what I've been thinking too. The 27" iMac really is an incredible looking machine, I've been wanting a 27" ACD ever since.
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'2010 Mac Pro: Speculation and whisperings, it's gonna be magical'
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That's what I've been thinking too. The 27" iMac really is an incredible looking machine, I've been wanting a 27" ACD ever since.
The E5520 @ 2.26GHz costs $373 now (so I assume), but what did it cost when the Mac Pro was first released?
If it was $700 when the current generation Mac Pro was first released, then your example would look more like this:
E5520 (4-cores, 2.26 Ghz) $700 x 2 = $1400
E5645 (6-cores, 2.40 Ghz) $996 x 2 = $1,992 (+$592 difference!)
I'm not sure if it was more expensive earlier on, but I assume so (correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know what the performance of the i7 iMac is vs the current quad 3.3 GHz Mac Pro.?
Can't seem to find a good Geek Bench comparisson anywhere.
Can't seem to find a good Geek Bench comparisson anywhere.
Xeon pricing doesn't tend to change during the life of the product. Only the Xeon 5300 series has received a price drop in the last 5 years that I remember. So yes they were $373 when they were announced. Also there would be no reason to use the E5645, when the X5650 is the same price.
This link should give you an idea (975 vs 860):
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-750-core-i7-860-870-processor-review-test/12
Long history:
1) Apple waiting longer than we like to announce an update.
2) Speculation increasing disproportionately to what's possible.
3) Disappointment when Apple offers half of what was speculated.
My best guess:
1) New case (as a trick to inspire a purchase, which will work)
2) All statistics bumped 10-20% (but really: 10%)
3) Possibly some new internal or external technology (that we don't really need, but we'll all use it to justify buying it).
Final thought:
I'm totally wrong, the 2010 low end $2200 MP will be 50% faster than the 2009 8 core. And it will have a new HD distribution platform that's better than Blue Ray. And it will have all new MP-specific "Pro" icons. That's right: no more corny "Applications" folder with the dorky pencil/paintbrush/pen thing that makes me think of a child's toy and want to vomit. I'd pay an extra $500 for the updated icons alone.
1) Apple waiting longer than we like to announce an update.
2) Speculation increasing disproportionately to what's possible.
3) Disappointment when Apple offers half of what was speculated.
My best guess:
1) New case (as a trick to inspire a purchase, which will work)
2) All statistics bumped 10-20% (but really: 10%)
3) Possibly some new internal or external technology (that we don't really need, but we'll all use it to justify buying it).
Final thought:
I'm totally wrong, the 2010 low end $2200 MP will be 50% faster than the 2009 8 core. And it will have a new HD distribution platform that's better than Blue Ray. And it will have all new MP-specific "Pro" icons. That's right: no more corny "Applications" folder with the dorky pencil/paintbrush/pen thing that makes me think of a child's toy and want to vomit. I'd pay an extra $500 for the updated icons alone.
I don't agree with all these people saying that the 12 core will cost 6k to start and go up for higher clock speeds. The price of the hexacores right now are the same price as the quadcores when they were put in the mac pro. And since Apple has not lowered the price of the MP even though the price of the processors have gone down, they will be able to keep the prices the same if they swap a quad for a hexa and dual quads for dual hexas.
Shipping Times
On the Canadian apple store website, after months and months of the shipping time saying "within 24 hours" is has slipped to 1-2 days!
Hold on to your hats people, I think we're finally getting close.
On the Canadian apple store website, after months and months of the shipping time saying "within 24 hours" is has slipped to 1-2 days!
Hold on to your hats people, I think we're finally getting close.
I'd better get some shandy ready then or I'll be pished before the 'one more thing'...
As for the Mac Pro - I am hoping for some updates as I really do want to upgrade my 10yr old mac (and I miss the MP - had one, sold it to start my business, now in nostalga mode with the old G4, ready for some newness).
I agree that the iMac 27 is very good value compared to the current quad MP - thats making my choice really had (I could do with the cheaper mem pgrades and internal HDD's, but then a FW800 set isnt too much and would mean I get a new screen).....
Lets cross fingers for an update with hexacore at the same (or lower) entry level price...... - that could swing it for me.
Be nice to see USB3 and SATA6Gbps as well and maybe even the 5xxx series (would be nice for future).
Otherwise I'll most likely be sticking to my plan of a 27" iMac in the next few months.
Sure enough!
Last night when I was playing around in the US it slipped for an hour or so, then went back to 24 hours... I thought it was just cause I had clicked an upgraded and then went back to stock model and it didn't register. Tried it later and it was fine... We can only hope!
I'd better get some shandy ready then or I'll be pished before the 'one more thing'...
In years past we would have a WWDC/Macworld bingo going. I'd like to add to the suggested drinking game (whatever your poison).
Every time Magic/ly/cal is uttered that's a shot/swig.
Appearance of any individual directly involved in prototype mess finish your drink, and start another.
Anyone else care to add?
Somebody out there must know something about this. Why is this the only recently anticipated Apple product that has absolutely no leaks, no hints, nada! Come on, someone that has some real info on what is happening with this upgrade, please drop us a crumb or two!!!
If it makes anyone feel better, some analyst guy says there will be MPs at WWDC:
http://www.9to5mac.com/shaw-wu-macbook-air-itunes-mac-pro-345864
http://www.9to5mac.com/shaw-wu-macbook-air-itunes-mac-pro-345864
Mmm Mac Rumors have a page on him: http://guides.macrumors.com/Shaw_Wu_(Analyst)
Doesn't look like he was too accurate in the past. Maybe now he's decided to step things up a bit?
guys one question:
are we likely going to get less cores for more money regarding the soon the come updated MP?
at this moment the price for a, 8-core system (# Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeons) is around 3000Euro's
am i correct to think that this time they will skip the 8-core and make us choose between 4,6 or 12.
If this is the case do you think we are going to get a 12 core system at the price an 8 core is now.
for example say i have an 8-core system at the moment and if i only got like 3000Euro's (more or less) does this mean that i actually will be downgrading if i want to buy an updated MP?
are we likely going to get less cores for more money regarding the soon the come updated MP?
at this moment the price for a, 8-core system (# Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeons) is around 3000Euro's
am i correct to think that this time they will skip the 8-core and make us choose between 4,6 or 12.
If this is the case do you think we are going to get a 12 core system at the price an 8 core is now.
for example say i have an 8-core system at the moment and if i only got like 3000Euro's (more or less) does this mean that i actually will be downgrading if i want to buy an updated MP?
On the dutch site its been 1-2 days for almost 2 weeks now, it used to be 24hours before. I don't think this means anything but Apple having some shiping trouble probably due to the Ipad.
LOL... but then there will be countless threads started like:
"Is the 2010 Mac Pro worth it?"
"2010 Mac Pro overpriced"
"2010 Mac Pro vs. 2009 Refurb"
"Should I get 4, 6, 8, or 12 cores?"
"Is Apple still committed to the Pro Market"
"When is the next Mac Pro refresh"
LOL... but then there will be countless threads started like:
"Is the 2010 Mac Pro worth it?"
"2010 Mac Pro overpriced"
"2010 Mac Pro vs. 2009 Refurb"
"Should I get 4, 6, 8, or 12 cores?"
"Is Apple still committed to the Pro Market"
"When is the next Mac Pro refresh"
You sir get the hammer award, because you just hit the nail on the head.
ok, so...do we get less processor power than 6 cores for the price of an 8-core machine today?