I am trying to decide between a 2011 refurb 17" vs a 2012 MBP 15". The refurb is the 2.4GHz i7, looking at the base 15" with the upgraded Hi-Res screen. Regardless of what I buy I will be upgrading to 16BG of ram and swapping out the HD for a 750GB Momentus XT (already own RAM and HD) The laptop will primarily be used for remote work access, setting up POC environments in Fusion, normal web/productivity and maybe some light gaming in boot camp (minecraft, magicka, Civ). It is replacing a Asus G74 that is just a little to heavy to lug around, I have an X220 for when I need something small, due to the remote work and POC items lots of screen real estate and HD space is important. Not considering the MBPR because I personally don't like how it looks above 1440x900 and getting the HD space I need would cost me $3k, but that is just my opinion. Really it comes down to less weight, 1 gen newer proc, better graphics vs higher res and more gfx memory.