2012 Mac Mini - Foiled Again

[xheathen]

It's a sad state of affairs when you receive an update that 2012 Mac Mini's are in the refurb store only to find out that they sold out again in less than 4 minutes. Does Apple even pay attention to that fact? That the current gen just sits there but every last one of the 2012's sell out in minutes?

Unbelievable.

 

[Micky Do]

Has it ever occurred to you that, other than the quad core model (missing from the line up now), the latest Mac Mini can be ordered with specs and performance that at least match the 2012 equivalent? Even the much derided base model can ramp up to 2.7 GHz for a bit when needs arise, though it normally loafs along, cool and efficient, at 1.4 GHz.

 

[grcar]

It's a sad state of affairs when you receive an update that 2012 Mac Mini's are in the refurb store only to find out that they sold out again in less than 4 minutes.

There is a site where you can set up an alert to let you know what is in the Apple Cert Refurb store.

https://www.refurb.me/us/

Or, you can buy 2012 minis at eBay.

 

[xheathen]

Has it ever occurred to you that, other than the quad core model (missing from the line up now), the latest Mac Mini can be ordered with specs and performance that at least match the 2012 equivalent? Even the much derided base model can ramp up to 2.7 GHz for a bit when needs arise, though it normally loafs along, cool and efficient, at 1.4 GHz.

I might agree with you except for the non-upgradable ram and additional storage limitations. In order to get at least 16gb I'm either out $900 or $1,000 depending on which route you go.

 

[xheathen]

There is a site where you can set up an alert to let you know what is in the Apple Cert Refurb store.

https://www.refurb.me/us/

Or, you can buy 2012 minis at eBay.

That's what's so frustrating about it - I did have a monitor. The time it took to look at my phone, then go to the store was all it took to be sold out

 

[crazeazn]

That's what's so frustrating about it - I did have a monitor. The time it took to look at my phone, then go to the store was all it took to be sold out

sorry that was me! i've been missing out on deals for the last 6 months and I finally was able to snag a i7-2.6. use refurb tracker and refurb.me, I can't remember which but I got a notification from the other for the machine I had already purchased...

 

[Dark Void]

They are definitely the most in demand mini.

 

[Auszero]

This is kind of a silly thread without data to support it. A lot like the whole "Apple watch sales slip 90%." For all you know Apple could only be listing 100 2012 minis a month while they're selling 500 2014 minis a day. To say that the 2014's just sits there is just speculation.

 

[hallux]

That's what's so frustrating about it - I did have a monitor. The time it took to look at my phone, then go to the store was all it took to be sold out

My brother and I tried using the alerts but we found them to be VERY slow. Both of us were able to get our desired computers ordered before the alert email even showed up. In my brother's case, the email NEVER showed, in my case I think the emailed showed but it was after my order had shipped (if not arrived). Both times, I was checking the refurb store on Apple's site and found the desired computer in stock.

 

[oneMadRssn]

This is kind of a silly thread without data to support it. A lot like the whole "Apple watch sales slip 90%." For all you know Apple could only be listing 100 2012 minis a month while they're selling 500 2014 minis a day. To say that the 2014's just sits there is just speculation.

Good thing we have a fully open secondary market to look at. We can see completed listings on ebay, and we can see the selling prices. Price trends indicate demand. The 2014s are selling under MSRP, which is expected since you can get a new one, but they are trending down in price, which indicates weak demand. The 2012s are selling over MSRP and trending up, which indicated strong demand. This isn't perfect data, but it's historically been spot on.

 

[Khalanad75]

Good thing we have a fully open secondary market to look at. We can see completed listings on ebay, and we can see the selling prices. Price trends indicate demand. The 2014s are selling under MSRP, which is expected since you can get a new one, but they are trending down in price, which indicates weak demand. The 2012s are selling over MSRP and trending up, which indicated strong demand. This isn't perfect data, but it's historically been spot on.

So you are using the resale market to show demand for new computers?

 

[oneMadRssn]

So you are using the resale market to show demand for new computers?

Yes. Where do you think the resale market gets it's inventory? What was once a new computer is later a resale computer.

This analysis is often used. For example, currently the prices of used cars are at an all time high (meaning used cars are selling close to their new car price than ever before). Why is that? Pretty much most economists agree it's because (1) ~5 years ago we were in a recession and sales of new cars were at a very low, thus the supply of used cars is low; (2) ~5 years ago, lots of inexpensive used cars were destroyed in the cash for clunkers program, again reducing the supply of used cars today; and (3) many middle-class families haven't seen a wage increase in a long time, thus more of them would buy used rather than new, so demand of used cars is higher. Does this let us know anything about the new car market too? Yes it does, this shows that if prices of used cars drop over time (again, speaking in a relative manner), then we will know how well the new car market was doing today.

So the data from the used car market is very insightful into the market overall - both new and used. The same is true of computers. Analysing the resale markets gives a lot of great insight into the overall market.

 

[Khalanad75]

Yes. Where do you think the resale market gets it's inventory? What was once a new computer is later a resale computer.

This analysis is often used. For example, currently the prices of used cars are at an all time high (meaning used cars are selling close to their new car price than ever before). Why is that? Pretty much most economists agree it's because (1) ~5 years ago we were in a recession and sales of new cars were at a very low, thus the supply of used cars is low; (2) ~5 years ago, lots of inexpensive used cars were destroyed in the cash for clunkers program, again reducing the supply of used cars today; and (3) many middle-class families haven't seen a wage increase in a long time, thus more of them would buy used rather than new, so demand of used cars is higher. Does this let us know anything about the new car market too? Yes it does, this shows that if prices of used cars drop over time (again, speaking in a relative manner), then we will know how well the new car market was doing today.

So the data from the used car market is very insightful into the market overall - both new and used. The same is true of computers. Analysing the resale markets gives a lot of great insight into the overall market.

Hey, the more you know.

 

[crazeazn]

there was 3 up today, I hope someone picked it up!