That is the same Toshiba 128GB model we are discussing in this and other threads. There do seem to be a lot of these failing all of a sudden.
I would for sure make sure dad's MBA is backed up regularly in case this bites him.
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2012 MBA SSD failure @ 14months
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That is the same Toshiba 128GB model we are discussing in this and other threads. There do seem to be a lot of these failing all of a sudden.
I would for sure make sure dad's MBA is backed up regularly in case this bites him.
This is funny because you just posted your Sandforce defense in another thread where a user reported FOUR Sandforce controlled OWC drives died in one year. Also in that thread (and others) many have reported the same multiple failures with OWC's Sandforce drives. Now we have the 12-14 month old Toshiba/Sandforce drives in 2012 MBAs starting to drop like flies.
So I guess your theory is that there is nothing wrong with Sandforce controllers and neither OWC nor Toshiba know how to properly assemble an SSD.
Not sure what your affinity for Sandforce is all about, but I don't follow your logic at all. The admittedly anecdotal evidence so far points to Sandforce drives having a lot of premature and sudden failures.
If you notice it's only Sandforce Blade SSD's that are failing. That same controller is used in many, many more 2.5in SSD's with no problem.
His thought that it may be how the controller is implemented on the blade drives may be correct. If that controller is used I other applications with no problem that points more to the board designers than the controller designer.
I've had a few Sandforce 2.5" drives die on me. One is out for warranty servicing at this time. Three OCZ, one OWC, and one Intell.
Yup, I've owned multiple SSDs since the Intel G1 SSD drives and have had experience with Marvell, Toshiba, Intel, Indilinx, Samsung, and Sandforce controllers. Of the several SSDs that have crashed on me all had Sandforce controllers in them.
I had a OCZ Vertex II 128GB that crashed on me in a Dell laptop, but I did the firmware update, and it's been running ok now for about 6 months.
I know that a while ago they had released a Firmware update to fix some issues. Is it possible that those updates were never applied? I have a few machines @ work with sandforce controllers and non have died. They are all the 2.5in form factor. I'm not sure they are all using the same controller version that people are having issue with though.
I don't think it is just the blade models. If you regularly read the forums, there seem to be frequent reports in here of Sandforce drives (both blade and 2.5") repeatedly dying. The bulk of those failures do seem to be OWC, but I suppose that could be because they sell more Sandforce drives than other companies.
I do find it interesting that many of the companies that were using Sandforce have started to move away from them. OCZ bought Indilinx and now uses their controllers. I think another SSD brand switched to Marvell, but the name escapes me.
I know that when OCZ moved their reason was for performance. OCZ also before that had that highest failure rating out of any other SSD maker. Even compared to other sandforce makers that use SandForce.
It would appear so. All of a sudden in the last couple weeks there are multiple reports here of the 2012 MBA 128GB Toshiba SSD just up and dying.
I actually believe it's the heat that is killing the SSD's. The 2013's haven't been around long enough yet.. Before I returned my 2013 Macbook Air, the SSD would run around 60-70c which is really hot for an SSD. My SSD currently in my W110ER is running at 34c. Not saying it's the cause but... it's something to keep in mind.
Heat is not killing them. Those temperatures are within the manufacturers' tolerances for the chipset and SSD. My few Sandforce based SSDs that have died have all been kept in a nicely cooled area.
I am a user of sandforce based SSDs from a long time now & just would like to share that the wrong perception which people had on sandforce based SSDs is fading out quite rapidly which is a feel good factor for sandforce fans! Having said this, any SSD needs regualar maintenance like firmware updates & proper power supplies. Check out the new Intel series of SSDs which are simply terrific!
Huh, are you a sandforce worker/marketer? If so, please get Toshiba/sandforce/Apple to own up for these drives and figure out why so many are failing and make it right.
It's approaching temps that could be dangerous. I haven't also experienced any OCZ failures yet so I might be biased. I have an OCZ SSD with 25TB host writes and it's hasn't seen anywhere near the temp that Macbooks subject SSD's to.
2012 MBA with Toshiba SSD
Could´nt someone MERGE all the different threads about Toshiba SSD failures on the mid2012 ?
(not me though as I´m a complete newbie on mac)
That could put this in perspective, as all with 2012´s (incl. me) rightly is/should be shaken.
Could´nt someone MERGE all the different threads about Toshiba SSD failures on the mid2012 ?
(not me though as I´m a complete newbie on mac)
That could put this in perspective, as all with 2012´s (incl. me) rightly is/should be shaken.
^^^^Someone tried to here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=36173423
But, well, some folks like to start their own threads (They're special, don't ya know) and what resulted is the hodgepodge of failed Toshiba SSD threads we now have.
Lou
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=36173423
But, well, some folks like to start their own threads (They're special, don't ya know) and what resulted is the hodgepodge of failed Toshiba SSD threads we now have.
Lou
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Might I be so frank as to suggest maybe the moderator could make them stick together, or is that too bold.