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So advantage Nico ahead of tomorrows race. Mind you, he really needs the win to keep his hopes alive. As long as Hamilton can address his brake balance, I'm sure he will come good though.

A bit sad with just 18 cars though. There was a talk of a boycott by another three teams as well. F1 is not a happy place at the moment.
 
So advantage Nico ahead of tomorrows race. Mind you, he really needs the win to keep his hopes alive. As long as Hamilton can address his brake balance, I'm sure he will come good though.

A bit sad with just 18 cars though. There was a talk of a boycott by another three teams as well. F1 is not a happy place at the moment.

i'm out of the loop.. why are the teams not happy?


is it this?

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/24184/9545916/fernando-alonso-says-f1-needs-to-use-common-sense-to-get-a-grip-on-finances
 
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Hopefully Hamilton's car troubles are sorted for the race. He races well from second as he's the type of driver that enjoys chipping away at an opponent. Nico just has to see that he doesn't crack again under the pressure when braking. The race is on too late here in the UK so i'll have to catch up with this one tomorrow :)
 
In short. Money. Too much at the top. Not enough at the back.

Yup, we've had two teams go bankrupt since the last race. Yet the likes of Mercedes get £100m per year from FOA just for turning up. You can add prize money onto that.

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Hoping that something happens to Hamilton so he DNF's and this points battle tightens up.

Doesn't really matter with double points for the last race.

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Hopefully Hamilton's car troubles are sorted for the race. He races well from second as he's the type of driver that enjoys chipping away at an opponent. Nico just has to see that he doesn't crack again under the pressure when braking. The race is on too late here in the UK so i'll have to catch up with this one tomorrow :)

It starts at 7 if you have Sky?
 
In short. Money. Too much at the top. Not enough at the back.
The money payout mirrors the points payout. Not as bad as it used to be when only the top 6 got points, but still very toploaded. MotoGP and IndyCar have much less steep points curves.

F1 is very schizophrenic about money. They proclaim they want more parity while destroying parity at every turn. They change the technical regulations every year which only those with the largest R&D budgets can cope with, and which furthermore keeps bottom teams from catching up. Rules stability means bottom teams can catch up over time. The money payout mentioned above helps the top teams maintain their R&D advantage. The ban on teams sharing chassis further entrenches the top teams. If 2 or 3 teams could band together and get somebody like Dallara to design and build something for them they could be much more competitive.
 
The budgets for top Formula One teams are unbelievable. Mercedes is rumored to be more than half a billion dollars. Ferrari slightly less, and Red Bull about $380 million.

Teams at the back - Marussia, Caterham, etc. try and get by on $150 million or so. Which sounds like a lot, but really isn't. Running a F1 car costs about $13,000 per mile (racing).

The real problem is the investment fund that Bernie Eccleston sold to takes the vast majority of the revenues Formula One generates from TV deals, sponsorships, etc. More than 85% according to some sources. The $600 million they dole out to the teams that actually make the series seems like charity rather than a reliable source of revenue. And of course, since it is determined by Constructors Championship points, tends to increase - rather than mitigate - the inequality.

The best thing that could happen is that enough teams boycott the series that they could force substantial changes. I don't think too many people would be interested in a F1 season with only three or four teams competing. And thats where we are headed.
 
Another non Sky bod here who stayed up for the highlights. Retreating it now as I'm up for work already.
Hamilton has been consistently better than Nico all season when they both have reliable cars. Once again he came from behind and claimed the points.
He deserves to win this championship. However I have a nagging doubt that the double points at the last race will end up with things going wrong.
 
Another non Sky bod here who stayed up for the highlights. Retreating it now as I'm up for work already.
Hamilton has been consistently better than Nico all season when they both have reliable cars. Once again he came from behind and claimed the points.
He deserves to win this championship. However I have a nagging doubt that the double points at the last race will end up with things going wrong.
I watched the highlights this morning when I got to work (before I officially started), skipped through a fair amount of it and watched the best bits. There was no way I was staying up late and risking a sleepless night just to watch it. I have a baby so its early mornings rather than late nights. It is annoying having to settle for highlights for some of the season, but at least you are getting what you pay for with the BBC. Having watched a fair few races on Sky with friends I just couldn't justify hundreds of pounds for half a season and with a format I think is sub par and a presentation team that fall short of the BBC's offering. Anyway.

A good race though and once again Hamilton appears to have got under Nico's skin and overtaken him for the lead. Lewis has most definitely been the better driver all season even if Nico has been often fast and capitalised on Hamilton's bad luck in races where that has really counted. The last race is where the season will be won though and neither driver can get complacent with where they are. Its a tight battle but all the hard work could be undone with a none finish from either driver.
 
So Nico verses Hamilton again, and Nico comes out on top for once!

If Hamilton had come in one lap earlier for the middle tyre stop maybe things would have been different. Also did Hamilton settle for second knowing that would be enough? Somehow I doubt it.

Anyway makes for a fun final weekend.
 
So Nico verses Hamilton again, and Nico comes out on top for once!

If Hamilton had come in one lap earlier for the middle tyre stop maybe things would have been different. Also did Hamilton settle for second knowing that would be enough? Somehow I doubt it.

Anyway makes for a fun final weekend.
Lewis took second for no other reason than he spun out mid-race and lost 6 seconds on track. I think he had every intention of winning if he could. The race is too tight for him to have any other motives or motivation.
 
The Fox Sports commenters are wrong about Hamilton needing to win in Abu Dhabi. He has a 17 point lead. The best Rosberg can do if Hamilton finishes one place behind is gain 14 points (50 for first vs 36 for second). Hamilton should win the championship barring some sort of disaster.
 
The Fox Sports commenters are wrong about Hamilton needing to win in Abu Dhabi. He has a 17 point lead. The best Rosberg can do if Hamilton finishes one place behind is gain 14 points (50 for first vs 36 for second). Hamilton should win the championship barring some sort of disaster.

Well no such miscalculation's on the BBC!

Hamilton's biggest threat is a DNF. Without the ones he has already had he would have one this championship already.
That's why I was surprised more teams didn't change engine's this weekend and take a grid penalty on single points to maximise the chance of finishing at the double points race.
 
The Fox Sports commenters are wrong about Hamilton needing to win in Abu Dhabi. He has a 17 point lead. The best Rosberg can do if Hamilton finishes one place behind is gain 14 points (50 for first vs 36 for second). Hamilton should win the championship barring some sort of disaster.

i'm sure if those other idiots would pipe down machett would have caught that... he he he...

all kidding side i really like that crew and i don't miss varsha at all.

missed all but the last 12 laps or so. what happened to bottas?
 
Yup, we've had two teams go bankrupt since the last race. Yet the likes of Mercedes get £100m per year from FOA just for turning up. You can add prize money onto that.

That's not right. It should be equal across the board. I was disappointed with the reduced field the last two races. :(

As far as the driver's goes, Rosberg has said he hopes for some "help" from the Willies in order for him to get the trophy. Hamilton has to finish below second place. Let's just hope he spins out again or gets a penalty for something.

Lots of interesting times leading up to Brazil this weekend! Rumor is that Alonso goes to McLaren with a nice hefty payout from Ferrari. By the times he retires he'll probably own all the records for highest paid F1 driver of all time.

http://www.planet-f1.com/driver/18227/9552687/Alonso-No-deadline-no-Marussia-deal
I'd love to see McLaren have a good season next year and be competitive again, but honestly if they had better cars they could do it with the the drivers they have. Jenson is already a superb driver and Magnussen (a bit cocky but oh well) has a lot of promise too. I think Alonso is too aggressive, plus he has a tendency to be a whiner... as he demonstrated at Silverstone running Vettel out of track repeatedly and then complaining on the radio when Vettel finally did it to him.
 
That's not right. It should be equal across the board. I was disappointed with the reduced field the last two races. :(
While I also don't like seeing a reduced field, I don't believe the payouts should be equal across the board. They should be something that is more fair and that helps to enable smaller non-works teams. I do think the extra payment to Ferrari should be eliminated.
 
While I also don't like seeing a reduced field, I don't believe the payouts should be equal across the board. They should be something that is more fair and that helps to enable smaller non-works teams. I do think the extra payment to Ferrari should be eliminated.

I'm new to F1, mainly just this year but having followed it a bit over previous seasons - an extra payment to Ferrari? Why in the hell...?


...and if they're not payouts based on performance, then why would they be unfairly tipped in someone's advantage? There's no reason other than bias centered around marketability.
 
A good race by both Merc drivers and well done to Nico for holding on to the lead this time. There was a period where Hamilton closed an almost 7 second gap after his spin where I thought Nico had messed it up though. The team should apologise to Lewis after that late call to stay out on wrecked tyres nearly seriously dented his championship. I thought it was lewis pushing too hard but after reviewing the incident the rear was lost very easily. Still, an excellent recovery drive and a good day at the office. :)
 
Either driver deserves to win the championship. I look forward to the finale.

I was against the double points thing at first, but in this case it worked out to make the finale an even bigger nail-biter than if regular points were the rule.
 
A good race by both Merc drivers and well done to Nico for holding on to the lead this time. There was a period where Hamilton closed an almost 7 second gap after his spin where I thought Nico had messed it up though. The team should apologise to Lewis after that late call to stay out on wrecked tyres nearly seriously dented his championship. I thought it was lewis pushing too hard but after reviewing the incident the rear was lost very easily. Still, an excellent recovery drive and a good day at the office. :)

But to be fair, as he had just put in his fastest lap, you can see why the team thought he was good for another lap. And the final decision always lies with the driver. If you pull in, they will service your car (as long as you go to the right garage Masa!)

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Either driver deserves to win the championship. I look forward to the finale.

I was against the double points thing at first, but in this case it worked out to make the finale an even bigger nail-biter than if regular points were the rule.

But should a flat tyre decide a championship? We could well see that this year.
 
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