I remember that time. Thee was so much excitement on the Apple Discussions pre-release forum. Good times.
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2014 Mac Mini Teardown Highlights Increased Difficulty For User Upgradability
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I remember that time. Thee was so much excitement on the Apple Discussions pre-release forum. Good times.
Yes, I'm sure that driver will be available in just a few months; glad companies like ifixit are around. I'll be passing on the new mini though. Can't give money to a company this arrogant.
you know this mac mini is the best so far, right?
Because you seem to defend this as if it's your life.
You nailed it.
It's pretty clear they had some kind of Rubicks cube type update planned for Broadwell and when that got delayed, we all got this cockup of a mess that's half way between a user upgradable Ivy and a sealed solid-state Broadwell. If you look at the fan, it's not even mounted to anything! Is it even necessary? Clearly this thing is ultimately destined for an AppleTV type enclosure... just not yet.
I last met a person who upgraded his computer four years ago. Upgradability on computers, removable battery on phones & memory cards on tablets are interesting perhaps to less than 1% of the market.
Some people really need to stop trying to conserve technology products for ages and get a new device when the time comes, just like the rest of us. In 2014 tech products are designed to be easy to manufacture & be thrown away when their time comes. Deal with it
good you do that.
I know how you feel. My first mac was the 2008 unibody macbook. Upgradeable ram, harddrive, and replaceable battery. Even has a tool-less door on the bottom. I will never own another laptop as nice as this one.
Hooray! Narrow-minded and flippant precisely what we need around here.
"Pros" as you call them (no apostrophe needed) aren't only miffed about the non-upgradeable RAM, but also the lack of a 2nd drive bay and the diminished multi-core performance. A two-year old machine trumps this. It's not trivial.
If you keep slapping Apple on the back, handing out cigars and launching fireworks when these downgrades come out, you're part of the problem.
10,000 people buy computers only ONE wants to upgrade it?? (.01%)
Hyperbole is so cute!
Most likely... Yes. In stock form, it seems the SATA is used for an HD and the stock flash will be PCIe based.
Do not underestimate the Apple users. Your ".01%" is actually something around 30%. Upgrading RAM on a Mini is easier than connecting a Mini to an HDMI port and configuring a wireless keyboard and a mouse.
$1200+ for a machine that performs worse than the 2012 model?
People keep saying "$499" this and that, but the fact is, the top-end new model is expensive and doesn't match a model that is outdated by two years.
I last met a person who upgraded his computer four years ago. Upgradability on computers, removable battery on phones & memory cards on tablets are interesting perhaps to less than 1% of the market.
Some people really need to stop trying to conserve technology products for ages and get a new device when the time comes, just like the rest of us. In 2014 tech products are designed to be easy to manufacture & be thrown away when their time comes. Deal with it
Is that you Tim Cook?
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Omg this guy ticked me off so much I had to make an account just to comment, who do you think you are mr keyboard warrior? Seriously, you speak for everyone in "poverty"? I doubt that. Actually the biggest annoyance about your holier than thou comment was that if people are in poverty they should not be owning a Mac mini in the first place. Macs are more expensive and a luxury item, if you knew real people who were poor you would know there is no way they would own an apple product, instead they would have some cheap no name brand computer and use the money for something more important.
Seriously, that's like complaining BMW car tires can only be changed by BMW but yet if people are that worse off they don't need a BMW, get off your high horse and think before you talk. Also by looking at your products in your tag line it looks like you are far from poor mr . 3 apple tvs. Don't try to speak for people and just come off as a POS. Rant over
Omg this guy ticked me off so much I had to make an account just to comment, who do you think you are mr keyboard warrior? Seriously, you speak for everyone in "poverty"? I doubt that. Actually the biggest annoyance about your holier than thou comment was that if people are in poverty they should not be owning a Mac mini in the first place. Macs are more expensive and a luxury item, if you knew real people who were poor you would know there is no way they would own an apple product, instead they would have some cheap no name brand computer and use the money for something more important.
Seriously, that's like complaining BMW car tires can only be changed by BMW but yet if people are that worse off they don't need a BMW, get off your high horse and think before you talk. Also by looking at your products in your tag line it looks like you are far from poor mr . 3 apple tvs. Don't try to speak for people and just come off as a POS. Rant over
I think you missed the other half of the conversation. He was replying to someone that basically said everything is disposable now and to get used to it. So he's not talking about poor people owning apple products.
Computers should get generally faster with each generation and why should we have to pay $200 for an 8GB memory upgrade at the time of purchase? Ridiculous.
This 8 Gb = Giga bit
You need to devide by 8 to convert it into GB = Giga Byte
And so 8 Gb = 1 GB
Multiply by 4 and you get 4 GB.
In short, Apple spent money designing a way to make the product less serviceable.
It was better for consumers if it spent money including better hardware specs. How much does the engineer of that pita-class screw earns in a month for messing a product that used to be good and fun?
It was better for consumers if it spent money including better hardware specs. How much does the engineer of that pita-class screw earns in a month for messing a product that used to be good and fun?
Hooray! Narrow-minded and flippant precisely what we need around here.
"Pros" as you call them (no apostrophe needed) aren't only miffed about the non-upgradeable RAM, but also the lack of a 2nd drive bay and the diminished multi-core performance. A two-year old machine trumps this. It's not trivial.
If you keep slapping Apple on the back, handing out cigars and launching fireworks when these downgrades come out, you're part of the problem.
10,000 people buy computers only ONE wants to upgrade it?? (.01%)
Hyperbole is so cute!
I think far more people upgrade their computer than most folks would guess. Just looking on amazon for "mac memory" shows that there are thousands of people that left reviews for just one type. The vast majority of purchasers are not going to go to the trouble to write a review, so how many upgrade? A lot more than .01%, that is certain.
Total fail because it's not thinner.
There's no way I'm buying anything that's not the thinnest.
There's no way I'm buying anything that's not the thinnest.
I can open all my brother's $5 Gateway PCs... If something breaks, which is what happened in many cases, it's easy to fix.
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Seriously, all everyone wanted was the same thing with 2014 parts (instead of 2012). Was that too much to ask? This would be a pure downgrade if it weren't for the marginally faster dual-core options. Heck the top-end models are a pure downgrade. Unbelievable. I'd get a Hackintosh instead of a mini if I needed a new desktop now.
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Some people really need to stop trying to conserve technology products for ages and get a new device when the time comes, just like the rest of us. In 2014 tech products are designed to be easy to manufacture & be thrown away when their time comes. Deal with it
My 2008 Mac Pro runs fine and won't need a replacement. Same with my neighbor's 2009 Mac mini. Too bad for you and Apple (if one isn't a subset of another).
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You Sir, are the kind of "No, Apple did not do wrong" folks the whole Apple community and also to a great extend this forum is scoffed about.
And instead of telling us why Apple's decision is a good thing, you just mock those who dare to tell their needs or fears of what Apple's going to change next that will affect customer satisfaction.
You're putting Apple in a comfortable spot of slipping in dozens of anti-customer tactics to boost their margins, but behold, in the end their business will see the results.
I for one am on the border of passing this round of iPhones and just waiting for the 2GB RAM model that is WAY overdue, unfortunately a whole year away.
And when 2GB is standard, 1GB models are going to see massive disadvantages fast.
Remember when we got to 1GB from 512MB?
Yeah, I'm not chipping in this time it seems. There's some stuff that keeps me still pondering, but their new priorities and taking the "let's not think about what Steve Jobs would have done" a bit too far isn't something I want to reward.
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Yes I was going to buy a MacMini (Iv'e been saving and waiting for quite a while) now I'm going Hankintosh.