Apple still sells these, right? There's refurbs too, but the selection is random. Anyway, I'm thinking of getting a 2015 Macbook Pro with at least 8GB/256GB, just debating about whether to bump that up to 16GB and/or 512GB. I'm planning to use it mostly for web browsing (I like to keep lots of tabs open), video, some light gaming (Civ 5 shouldn't be a problem, for instance, no idea about Civ 6), and maybe Windows (VM or Bootcamp, though that would probably be more comfortable with more room). I guess my main question is- 8GB or 16GB? I could just max out both, but I'm trying to keep the price down a bit. I know I don't need a Pro for web browsing, but I would like to upgrade to a Retina screen, and no thanks to the current Pro and Macbook (I'll stay with Magsafe and USB-A). If only Apple had just added a Retina screen to the Air line, but that's extremely unlikely now. I've been using a Macbook Air for several years now, and its been great, it just slows down sometimes when I have too much open. Would the Pro's i5 be able to handle more on the regular 8GB, compared to the Air's i5? I know more ram is always better, just debating if its really necessary. Same with the 256GB or 512GB. I guess I could store stuff on external hard drives or even an SD card, but its just more convenient to have everything on one drive. And especially if I add Windows, that usually takes at least... 20GB for the install alone? Something like that, and if I want to put stuff on that partition/VM, well, 256GB goes down fast. Thank you in advance for any useful advice/thoughts. I figure even a 2015 Macbook Pro should last for quite a few more years of everyday use. Although I worry that Apple will remove it from their site after WWDC, with the rumors of the current Macbooks getting a speed bump, which is why I'm narrowing down my choice now.