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Can we all agree that Tom Brady is overrated. As long as Belichick is coaching the Pats will win.
Nope, can't agree, and while you seem to have an axe to grind against the patriots/brady, its clear their 4 super bowl wins, MVPs and stats as a player all highlight a WB who will easily enter into the HOF

Its pretty awesome that Belichick has been able to devise game plans that have won games, but that doesn't diminish how much Brady has done in the past.

Here's some records from: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/tom...ever-most-per-team-quarter-day-peyton-manning

1. Tom Brady is the fourth quarterback in NFL history to throw for 400 touchdowns, behind Peyton Manning (533), Brett Favre (508) and Dan Marino (420).

2. The Pats signal caller is the fastest to ever get to 400, doing it in 7,282 attempts. That beats Manning’s mark by 14 passes.
 
Nope, can't agree, and while you seem to have an axe to grind against the patriots/brady, its clear their 4 super bowl wins, MVPs and stats as a player all highlight a WB who will easily enter into the HOF

Its pretty awesome that Belichick has been able to devise game plans that have won games, but that doesn't diminish how much Brady has done in the past.

Here's some records from: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/tom...ever-most-per-team-quarter-day-peyton-manning
You have to give an assist to the protection Brady had around him for a lot of those numbers. As the Giants proved if you can get to Brady he is beatable. I still give the edge to Belichick's ability to build and coach the team.
 
Let's stop with the overrated talk. No way you can call Brady overrated with everything he's done. The only thing that this season showed us is that maybe Brady isn't this godly-like player everyone made him out to be and Belichick has a role in Brady's success but he's not overrated.
 
You have to give an assist to the protection Brady had around him for a lot of those numbers. As the Giants proved if you can get to Brady he is beatable. I still give the edge to Belichick's ability to build and coach the team.
No doubt that his success is tied to his O line, receivers, and TE. He's been blessed to have such a gifted group of teammates.
 
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No doubt that his success is tied to his O line, receivers, and TE. He's been blessed to have such a gifted group of teammates.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

For example ( not a comparison ) look at Seattle and Russell Wilson. He has NO protection. The O-Line sucks.

They say Defense wins games. Well offensive lines make points.

And speaking of points.
Buffalo over Arizona 30-7 ?

whats up with that.
 
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Buffalo over Arizona 30-7 ?
I generally don't care who wins/loses in the NFL with the exception of a few teams. Buffalo is one of those, that I look forward to losing. Now we have to hear that blow hard proclaim how great the Bills are and to start packing for the Super Bowl
 
Rams are 1st in the NFC West! Yes, it's only been 3 weeks but who would've thought they would be doing any winning after that embarrassing and pathetic loss to the 49ers Monday night especially the way the 49ers are playing now?
 
This has to be one of my worst starts in Fantasy Football this year. Players that should be producing are not while non-household names are producing like crazy.

I can attest to that but from the right side of things. I had the worst draft I've ever had in my fantasy football playing life this year but yet I'm 3-0 in my league and among the top 3 teams in scoring. I don't have any top players on my team. It's crazy and I'm sure it will correct soon so I'm trying to rack up the wins and hit that waiver wire.
 
I can attest to that but from the right side of things. I had the worst draft I've ever had in my fantasy football playing life this year but yet I'm 3-0 in my league and among the top 3 teams in scoring. I don't have any top players on my team. It's crazy and I'm sure it will correct soon so I'm trying to rack up the wins and hit that waiver wire.

I mean it only has to go up from here right?

Two QB's on my roster: 10 INT, 0 TD, net 1.2 points combined. I'm laughing because how the **** does that happen? I don't get any production regardless who I started. Throw in the AP injury, that's just adding insult to injury.
 
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I mean it only has to go up from here right?

Two QB's on my roster: 10 INT, 0 TD, net 1.2 points combined. I'm laughing because how the **** does that happen? I don't get any production regardless who I started. Throw in the AP injury, that's just adding insult to injury.
I really think the league is **** this year. There is no RB talent to be found outside of 5 or 6 players. Russell Wilson is a mess. The Wide receivers seem to be flaky.
 
I really think the league is **** this year. There is no RB talent to be found outside of 5 or 6 players. Russell Wilson is a mess. The Wide receivers seem to be flaky.

I thought it was just me thinking that! Perhaps I was not paying enough attention to the new talent in the NFL.

Top 5 WRs:
1. Marvin Jones
2. Stefon Diggs
3. Jarvis Landry
4. Antonio Brown
5. Mike Evans

If I were to ask who are the top 5 WR's in the league, Antonio Brown would be there and maybe Mike Evans (that's a stretch).

Same for RBs:

1. LaGarerete Blount
2. Isaiah Crowell
3. Lamar Miller
4. Matt Forte
5. DeAngelo Williams

I'm not saying these players aren't talented, but did I totally draft wrong? Were these players expected to be where they are? Tell me I'm missing something because my team is in complete shambles ATM.
 
I thought it was just me thinking that! Perhaps I was not paying enough attention to the new talent in the NFL.

Top 5 WRs:
1. Marvin Jones
2. Stefon Diggs
3. Jarvis Landry
4. Antonio Brown
5. Mike Evans

If I were to ask who are the top 5 WR's in the league, Antonio Brown would be there and maybe Mike Evans (that's a stretch).

Same for RBs:

1. LaGarerete Blount
2. Isaiah Crowell
3. Lamar Miller
4. Matt Forte
5. DeAngelo Williams

I'm not saying these players aren't talented, but did I totally draft wrong? Were these players expected to be where they are? Tell me I'm missing something because my team is in complete shambles ATM.
I think the established names just suck this year.
 
Wow, Prescott looked sharp last night - I think Romo may have trouble getting back on the field if Prescott continues to look great. Granted, it was against a patchwork Bears defense, but the fact remains, he's mobile, quick minded and a great passer. Romo, while a good QB, is fragile, and has lead feet - he's not fast, at least not anymore.
 
Wow, Prescott looked sharp last night - I think Romo may have trouble getting back on the field if Prescott continues to look great. Granted, it was against a patchwork Bears defense, but the fact remains, he's mobile, quick minded and a great passer. Romo, while a good QB, is fragile, and has lead feet - he's not fast, at least not anymore.

Yup, I was talking about this with a fellow Cowboy fan. If Prescott wins a majority of the games while Romo is out, it is going to be very tough to bring him back in. Now if Prescott pulls a five hundred or sub record, there will be no question. But he looked pretty darn good last night. So did the running game which I am very glad to see!
 
Per Jerry Jones, "This is Romo's team". I think Prescott certainly looks like the future, but they will give Tony a shot when he comes back.
 
Per Jerry Jones, "This is Romo's team". I think Prescott certainly looks like the future, but they will give Tony a shot when he comes back.

I think that tune will change once the Cowboys are winning and doing so in a fashion that Jerry likes! The real test will be the Eagles right now since they seem to be the team to beat in the NFC-East right now.
 
Per Jerry Jones, "This is Romo's team". I think Prescott certainly looks like the future, but they will give Tony a shot when he comes back.

Looks like Stephen Jones in an early interview didn't slam that door shut.
In comments to Peter King of TheMMQB.com, Cowboys executive V.P. Stephen Jones didn’t dismiss the possibility of Dak Prescott playing so well that Romo can’t get back on the field after the broken bone in his back heals.

“I can’t imagine a scenario where Tony’s not our quarterback when he’s ready,” Jones said, seemingly closing the door on Prescott taking the job before jamming it open. “But things happen. You know that. You know what happened to Bledsoe and [Tom] Brady. I’m sure Tony’s aware of that. But the reality is Tony’s going to come back for us and play great, we believe.”


In other news, JJ Watt is on IR. Looks like he and Texans rushed his recovery to the point now that they lost him for what looks like the entire season
 
In other news, JJ Watt is on IR. Looks like he and Texans rushed his recovery to the point now that they lost him for what looks like the entire season

Ouch that's a huge blow to the Texans, how is clowney doing? has he lived up to his draft hype?
 
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