2016 iMac?

Discussion in 'iMac' started by sotorious, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. sotorious macrumors 6502a

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    Will there be one for the summer, or will the next release be in October again.

    Anyone have any insight?
     
  2. redheeler macrumors 603

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  3. sotorious thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Everytime I get a hair to buy something the new product is right around the corner.
     
  4. PatriotInvasion macrumors 65816

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    I'd expect September or October, potentially featuring a redesigned body to accommodate Thunderbolt 3/USB-C ports.
     
  5. maflynn Moderator

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    Maybe, but we'll not see anything until this fall, at the earliest. People were expecting a major update for the MBP line which is really over due for one this past June, and nothing happened. I'd say with the iMac which was refreshed last October, there's no reason to update the iMac when the MBP is languishing behind.
     
  6. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    The current models is working just fine you know..
     
  7. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    That depends what you going to do with it. Maybe it does for you, but I have often had out of memory crashes and throttling despite having 32gb ram and the maxed out i7. The fact that Apple doesn't even let me get a more powerful machine no matter how much money I would be willing to pay is troublesome.


    But to answer the thread starter there hasn't been any rumors of a new iMac yet this year. And on apple pages the current iMac is still branded as "new" despite soon being 1 year old. If this is a fluke or if Apple consider it still to be new I don't know... But if they do it could mean we won't see anything updated this year...then im off the apple bandwagon
     
  8. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    Time to upgrade it ot 64GB RAM then, if you have the 2015 model.
     
  9. maflynn Moderator

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    If you're short of ram, you can upgrade to 64GB, the chipset does support that, though Apple doesn't officially confirm this.

    That's almost always been the case with Apple, unfortunately.
     
  10. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    I guess you are right

    Ram is only one, throttling and render time is bigger issues for me
     
  11. cynics macrumors G3

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    Tell me about it. I want a new Mac and I'm considering and Apple Watch. I don't need either so to me it makes sense just to wait.
     
  12. MCAsan macrumors 601

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    The late 2016 or early 2017 iMacs should be a deflection point for physical ports and transport protocols. USB-C ports running TB3 and DP 1.3 that will likely replace all the older DP/TB and USB 3 ports. I would be surprised if the new machines have an ethernet port or an SD reader.
     
  13. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    Yeah so it's either iMac or an Apple Watch? Understandable, who'd need both
     
  14. cynics macrumors G3

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    iMac AND Apple Watch. I think I want both about equally.
     
  15. iMcLovin macrumors 68000

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    I was only joking :). The watch is not all what it seems tbh. I own one and if it wasn't for the workout features I would have regretted buying it.
     
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    PatriotInvasion macrumors 65816

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    Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C is the reason to update the iMac. Every single I/O port on the back of the current iMac is going away. The traditional USB 3 ports and Thunderbolt 2 ports that are based on the Mini DisplayPort connector are all gonzo. People need to do more research on USB-C because it WILL be replacing every single port you are used to in the very near future. It does USB, DisplayPort, charging, and if enabled hardware wise --- Thunderbolt 3. It can also handle HDMI, Ethernet, and SD cards via adapters.

    Once the new MacBook Pro is released likely with 4 USB-C ports of which 2 will likely support Thunderbolt 3, the iMac, if not updated, would be the only mainstream Mac without USB-C. My guess is the September event will be similar to the one in Late-2012 which saw a newly designed 13" Retina MacBook Pro (following up on the 15" from WWDC) AND an all new iMac.

    My hopes for the next gen 5K iMac:
    • Thinner bezels and reduced chin height
    • Improved speakers (with the magic they've done in the 12" MacBook)
    • 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports
    • 2 USB-Type C Gen 2 ports
    • SSD or Fusion Drive as standard
    • Silver, Gold, and Space Gray options (probably unlikely, but would be cool)
     
  17. cynics macrumors G3

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    I feel we will still see a combination of USB-A ports on a late 2016 iMac.

    However I'm curious about the bold. Which Macs do you define as mainstream? You don't consider the MacBook mainstream do you? And your theory of the iMac being the only Mac without USB-C is based on a rumor of another Mac getting only USB-C?
     
  18. PatriotInvasion macrumors 65816

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    USB-A will be dead tech soon and Apple is known for ripping the band-aid to get people on to new and better technology. Keeping USB-A simply enables people's continued reliance on a legacy standard that is being replaced by Type C. It's possible the iMac will keep some simply because port space is less of an issue than on portables, but my guess is they will be happy to sell you a $19 USB-C to USB-A adapter if you don't like it.

    Yes, the MacBook is a mainstream Mac. It is the least expensive, and newest portable Mac with a Retina display. The Air line is dying, and the MacBook price will come down in the next year or so making it the new baseline Mac notebook.

    My theory is based on knowledge of Apple and extensive research on USB-C. The new MacBook Pro will only have USB-C ports. I guarantee it.
     
  19. chad.petree macrumors 6502

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    I'd like for that to be true , but I see no way of replacing the power cable with a USB type x port , right now it is limited to 100 w , that's not even enough for a top of the lone laptop , less alone for a desktop :'(

    I'm with you ! The huge bezels need to GO! Why thunderbolt ports if we have USB c ?

    The fact that Apple is still shipping the iMac with hard disk drives is nothing short of a joke . SSD all the way , we're no talking about machines that cost 500 dollars :/

    I'd love to have a space gray option ! Why do you say it's unlikely , actually the from iMac "refresh " wishlist , I see it as the most likely thing to happen !
     
  20. maflynn Moderator

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    I'd like to agree with you, but Apple does have a history of pulling the plug on interfaces they feel do not serve a purpose, i.e., optical drives, floppy drives, the old ADB port. I think pulling the legacy USB port may be a bit premature but they did it in the MacBook, so I wouldn't put it past them to do the same thing for the MBP (and even iMac)
     
  21. thekev macrumors 604

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    There are a couple possibilities. If you're actually getting crashes in the sense of kernel panics, you should test that ram. Otherwise you may have application level problems. In some cases the maximum amount that an application may allocate can be tuned via its settings. You don't want to starve the OS, so those should be set appropriately. A couple applications use scratch disks of some kind. If they are getting hit too hard and spotlight tries to index them, it can cause occasional crashes. This can be resolved via privacy settings so that spotlight won't cause an exception.

    Any amount of ram can be tight depending on uses cases, but you shouldn't generally experience crashes. I believe you may be able to resolve the crash issue without a new machine, even if it would provide other performance improvements.
     
  22. cynics macrumors G3

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    You're absolutely right. I somehow forgot about some of those interfaces. Maybe it's more wishful thinking. Lol
     
  23. PatriotInvasion macrumors 65816

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    Didn't mean to insinuate a USB-C power cord on an iMac. Was just listing the things it's capable of.

    Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector, not the older miniDP connector. The USB-C port just needs a Thunderbolt 3 controller to be capable of TB3 speeds.

    I say unlikely on colors because Apple would have to also anodize the aluminum of the included Magic accessories as well which seems like too much work and too many SKUs for a product that doesn't sell as well as their portable devices. I'm expecting silver only for mass appeal.
     
  24. Adam552 macrumors 6502

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    I did hear something that they were waiting for their Campus to be finished at the end of the year, where they would then announce lots of updated products (but this was just a rumour) :D
     

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