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I feel like I'm stuck with my 2010 15" completely maxed out MacBook Pro forever. But look at that battery. That ONE piece of exchangeable, solid battery. Still working, still accurate. What the hell was wrong with that?
#1 - Too thick
#2 - Not glued/soldered in, so Apple can't milk you for Max $$$ upfront
 
Wake up call for Tim Cook. So many employees, such an advanced campus being built and such poor product development.

Biggest innovation of the past 3 years: Headphones.

Think so? I'd say the biggest innovation in the past three years is the work done in haptic feedback. Now used across watch, iPhone, MacBook and MacBook Pro, and even in the new Magic Trackpad. Allowed them to make products thinner, remove a moving part which assists in reliability, allows them to better seal the home button giving water resistance to the iPhone while still having the feel of a click, and created a better notification method than the typical vibration for the Apple Watch.
 
I can't think of anything Apple has released in the past 3 years that hasn't been utter dog poo.

Phones with protruding cameras (not to mention bend gate).
A largely useless watch.
A Mac Pro that is largely useless to pros.
Another phone without a headset jack
Now, Macbook pros without SD card slots, that obsolete all the previous generation dongles and without one of the best features no other portable has - the magsafe.

It seems like someone really needs to ask this guys WTF they are thinking.
Trolling day? How miserable should be your day to waste time like this:
1) bend gate? Every phone can bend, I work in a support center, but sure iPhone 6 Plus should be more robust, lesson learned with 6S Plus
2) if it useless to you it doesn't mean it is for others, I use my Apple Watc ma for so many things, from fitness to contro appletv to shopping list.
3) Mac Pro is old but far from useless, I sell many of these to pros even today, and by your reasoning most workstation are useless
4) jack? Cmon nobody really cares, still your opinion
5) I have the net MacBook Pro and it is the best of pc I ever had, I had a lot of them, since I work in IT since 15 years

Stop polluting internet
 
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The funny thing is how a lot of people on here were clamoring for a new MacBook Pro, and now that Apple released one, a lot of people are clamoring for the old/"stale" MacBook Pro.

It's completely understandable though. And I think this reaction just sort of cements further the idea that this notebook wasn't particularly designed for the audiences of the 2012-2015 MBPs, that it's not really "Pro."
I don't think it's funny at all myself. These are supposed to be workhorse machines that people use to make a living. Apple is dropping the ball big time. It makes me angry. We know they can do better. For whatever reason, they aren't delivering the goods. They need to remedy this if there's going to be a future for the Mac. This obsession Apple/Jony has with thinness over performance has just got to stop. Pro's want performance first and foremost. Period.
 
Trolling day? How miserable should be your day to waste time like this:
1) bend gate? Every phone can bend, I work in a support center, but sure iPhone 6 Plus should be more robust, lesson learned with 6S Plus
2) if it useless to you it doesn't mean it is for others, I use my Apple Watc ma for so many things, from fitness to contro appletv to shopping list.
3) Mac Pro is old but far from useless, I sell many of these to pros even today, and by your reasoning most workstation are useless
4) jack? Cmon nobody really cares, still your opinion
5) I have the net MacBook Pro and it is the best of pc I ever had, I had a lot of them, since I work in IT since 15 years

Stop polluting internet


In my household, I have 4 macbooks (2 pros, 1 air, 1 unibody), 1 mac mini, 1 aiport extreme, 4 airport express, 2 apple tvs. and 3 iphones and 3 ipads. I am an Apple customer, not some random Apple critic.

Defending Apples recent stupid design decisions is not doing real Apple customers any favors.

By the way, being in retail doesn't mean your are in I.T.
 
You sir, win for having the most original comment of the year!! Bravo!

On the side note, I think know why CR does not recommend the new MBP! It must be because Apple have not payed them enough, right?

No, because the new Macbook Pros suck. I mean, come on. Do you take video or photos? Isn't that what Macs are good for? Photo and video editing? What is the most common mechanism for storing photo and video? SD cards, right? How do pitch a laptop as a photo/video edition tool when you need a dongle to load your photo and videos into the laptop?

They needed to do exactly 3 things to the new macbook pros to not screw things up.
1. magsafe
2. SD card slot
3. less dongles

So what did Apple do?
1. No magsafe
2. No SD card slot
3. More dongles

As a bonus, there are battery issues.

Absolutely brilliant, Apple.
 
Safari probably has a leak. Or maybe an API for the new hardware has a leak. And it's triggered in some instances. OS X used to have that problem with memory leaks, usually again Safari being the culprit.
Memory leaks don't cause battery drain. Running excessive amounts of code which runs the cpu more than it should uses battery...
 
Apple should focus more on Mac and release new products each year, as with iOS. Do not forget Mac Pro with Apple Thunderbolt Display.
 
CR obviously doesn't know that this is the best MacBook Pro they have ever made....

Overall it probably is.
The iPhone 7 is the best iPhone ever made as well.

Compare other smartphones 2010 to iPhone 2010
Compare other smartphones 2016 to iPhone 2016
Same goes for MacBooks.

If you compare against the competition instead of own predecessors, Apple once was way ahead.
Now they are at a similar level as everyone else while constantly increasing prices.
 
No, because the new Macbook Pros suck. I mean, come on. Do you take video or photos? Isn't that what Macs are good for? Photo and video editing? What is the most common mechanism for storing photo and video? SD cards, right? How do pitch a laptop as a photo/video edition tool when you need a dongle to load your photo and videos into the laptop?

They needed to do exactly 3 things to the new macbook pros to not screw things up.
1. magsafe
2. SD card slot
3. less dongles

So what did Apple do?
1. No magsafe
2. No SD card slot
3. More dongles

As a bonus, there are battery issues.

Absolutely brilliant, Apple.
MagSafe adds an unnecessary port that can only perform one function when USB-C can do the same thing but also transfer data.

Professional photographers often use more than just SD for storage purposes, including CF. and those working in a studio may be tethering their cameras. Those working in the industry should be used to using an external card reader.

The adapters are necessary in the short term to aid the transition to USB-C. It's a small trade off to have an IO standard for the future that's compact and versatile.
 
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Since this notebook has a brighter display, it makes me wonder that perhaps people should reduce the brightness level on the notebooks a couple of notches down from their previous notebook?
 
MR is a forum not a person, but you probably mean opinions slanted towards your view and against ratio.

There's not a forum anywhere in the world where opinions aren't clashing. In fact, what's the point of even having a forum site if everybody's in agreement?

Preaching to the choir, buddy. I'm neither a fanboi, a hater, or a troll. I'm here because MacRumors is useful.

My comment was in response to someone being surprised that the comments were turning negative lately, but we both know there have always been plenty of negative comments. People seem to expect a site named MacRumors to be a raging fanboi central full of uncritical followers, but it's not and never has been.
 
No, because the new Macbook Pros suck. I mean, come on. Do you take video or photos? Isn't that what Macs are good for? Photo and video editing? What is the most common mechanism for storing photo and video? SD cards, right? How do pitch a laptop as a photo/video edition tool when you need a dongle to load your photo and videos into the laptop?

I figured that is easy to whine, whine, whine and then whine more, rather then figuring out a solution.

Yes, I do take lot of photos and videos. That's why I bought the MBP 2016. And since I deal with photos and videos, I bought an LG 27UD88 27" to go with it. Which happen to have all the ports that I need. I did not buy this for the ports, I bought it for the larger 4K display which is easier to work. And for the times when I am traveling and have my cameras with me, I paid £9 to get an USB-A to USB C adapter. That's the only adapter I bought and the only adapter I need. Sure it would be better if MacBook pro was full of ports on all corners for some. For me no. I want just what I need.

If I have to complain about 1 thing on these MBP it would be the crazy prices. And maybe the battery life is also an issue, though with mine I haven't noticed any difference. The rest I think is just a white noise.
 
MagSafe adds an unnecessary port that can only perform one function when USB-C can do the same thing but also transfer data.

Professional photographers often use more than just SD for storage purposes, including CF. and those working in a studio may be tethering their cameras. Those working in the industry should be used to using an external card reader.

The adapters are necessary in the short term to aid the transition to USB-C. It's a small trade off to have an IO standard for the future that's compact and versatile.

Compact flash? Really? You don't get compact flash support until you spend $2500 in a Nikon body.

Apple designed the Macbook Pro for people who shoot with Nikon D810s? Not for scrubs like me who shoot with a D600? I should be using a Macbook Air as my go to laptop? Really?

If your argument was that the overwhelming majority of photos and videos are being shot with smart phones now and for those, a USB-C interface is perfectly fine, then I would appreciate your point. But compact flash? Really?

And as for the magsafe, what made it great to the many hundreds of thousands of people who have macbooks is that when your 3 year old inadvertently kicks the cord, your hyper expensive laptop doesn't wind up falling on the floor. Magsafe was genius when Apple first introduced it and its still genius today.
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I figured that is easy to whine, whine, whine and then whine more, rather then figuring out a solution.

Yes, I do take lot of photos and videos. That's why I bought the MBP 2016. And since I deal with photos and videos, I bought an LG 27UD88 27" to go with it. Which happen to have all the ports that I need. I did not buy this for the ports, I bought it for the larger 4K display which is easier to work. And for the times when I am traveling and have my cameras with me, I paid £9 to get an USB-A to USB C adapter. That's the only adapter I bought and the only adapter I need. Sure it would be better if MacBook pro was full of ports on all corners for some. For me no. I want just what I need.

If I have to complain about 1 thing on these MBP it would be the crazy prices. And maybe the battery life is also an issue, though with mine I haven't noticed any difference. The rest I think is just a white noise.

I'm not asking for a corner full of ports of all kinds. Just asking for one - SD card slot. That's it. I'm not even complaining about all those thunderbolt dongles that they made me buy and are now obsolete. Or the missing headset port.

All I want is stupid SD card slot. And magsafe connector in case the dog accidentally catches the power cord on his leg.
 
My 15" new MBPro is mostly powerd by the power-adatpter.
If not it drains as fast as the Dell Precision 5510 ...
There is definitively something to do for Apple.
 
I ordered this machine with high hopes the day the pre-orders started. It is already bricked from the battery. Really bummed by Apple's QA on this machine.
 
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The funny thing is how a lot of people on here were clamoring for a new MacBook Pro, and now that Apple released one, a lot of people are clamoring for the old/"stale" MacBook Pro.

It's completely understandable though. And I think this reaction just sort of cements further the idea that this notebook wasn't particularly designed for the audiences of the 2012-2015 MBPs, that it's not really "Pro."

Since 2012 it's not usual to see established fans choose the previous products over the new versions.
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MagSafe adds an unnecessary port that can only perform one function when USB-C can do the same thing but also transfer data.

Professional photographers often use more than just SD for storage purposes, including CF. and those working in a studio may be tethering their cameras. Those working in the industry should be used to using an external card reader.

The adapters are necessary in the short term to aid the transition to USB-C. It's a small trade off to have an IO standard for the future that's compact and versatile.

That one function is actually a major selling point of the the MacBook range for a very long time.

We loose a major "apple only" benefit and gain a port any PC has...to be that's a major backward step in my opinion. And I say that from experience cause every single MacBook I have owned MagSafe has saved it countless times, made worse by the fact you can't repair the new machines . The cynic in me sees this as a money spinner move
 
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