2016 Touch Bar Pro Vs New Base Model?

joeystetsons

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I have the 2016 Touch Bar pro with the 2.9GHZ dual core chip MLH12LL/A
Would I see any improvements by updating to the new base pro with the quad core? Thinking about switching out as I could do so with a very small monetary hit
 

chabig

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I just did that. The 2019 is about 25% faster, has better security because of the T2, has Bluetooth 5.0, will support Activation Lock beginning with Catalina, and has a better keyboard (which is warranted for another four years)
 
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pcd213

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I think Jonathan Morrison's latest video compared the new base pro against the 2016 model and found a big improvement. Watch his video. I could be wrong.
 

waquzy

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I think Jonathan Morrison's latest video compared the new base pro against the 2016 model and found a big improvement. Watch his video. I could be wrong.
He didn't test the base model, he upgraded his ram to 16GB.

Anyways, 2016 model should be better as it has 2 fans instead of 1
 

maflynn

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Anyways, 2016 model should be better as it has 2 fans instead of 1
Are you sure? We've not heard any complaints about heat. The one fan may very well be sufficient. I'll be the first to admit that I've not followed the ins and outs of the new MBP but the chatter here seems to lack any complaints about heat.
 

waquzy

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Are you sure? We've not heard any complaints about heat. The one fan may very well be sufficient. I'll be the first to admit that I've not followed the ins and outs of the new MBP but the chatter here seems to lack any complaints about heat.
Well I have the nTB 2017 MBP and its single fan drives me crazy, it can't keep the laptop cool under heavy load and it's almost uncomfortable to have it on your lap. It even has 2 air vents like the Touch Bar model, I don't understand why didn't they include the 2nd fan.

But yeah, anyways, I won't be buying any new MacBook's with a single fan, its just pointless, all that supposedly great performance in the new baseline model will most likely be compromised when it starts throttling due to bad cooling. It definitely needs 2 fans imo, that's why all the other quad-core 13" MacBook Pro's(4 Thunderbolt ports) have 2 fans.
 

chabig

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But those older machines with two fans have older processors. How do you know that the processors in the new machines aren't more efficient?
 

maflynn

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Well I have the nTB 2017 MBP and its single fan drives me crazy, it can't keep the laptop cool
But is the 2019 suffering from that? Apple has done some really good work with the 15" MBP where the 2019 runs fast and doesn't throttle like the 2018. All in saying is that the single fan may be good enough thanks to other changes
 
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waquzy

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But is the 2019 suffering from that? Apple has done some really good work with the 15" MBP where the 2019 runs fast and doesn't throttle like the 2018. All in saying is that the single fan may be good enough thanks to other changes
Well we have to wait and see I suppose...
 

Howard2k

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I just did that. The 2019 is about 25% faster, has better security because of the T2, has Bluetooth 5.0, will support Activation Lock beginning with Catalina, and has a better keyboard (which is warranted for another four years)
25% in single core right? Multi core must be far more. I thought I read 83%?