2018 Macbook Pro Bootcamp Q&A

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by SkimPappa, Jul 14, 2018.

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Does it run hot?

  1. No - Fans adjust well based on temp

    46.2%
  2. No - Fans run full out all the time

    7.7%
  3. Yes - This thing may burst in to flames

    46.2%
  1. SkimPappa macrumors member

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    How stable is Windows in Bootcamp?
    How hot does the computer get?
    Any bugs/glitches?
     
  2. V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r macrumors 6502

    V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r

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    Thank you for creating this thread regarding the Mid-2018 update.

    Just, may I add two questions:

    1. Could somebody run Geekbench (CPU and GPU) in Windows and post yours specs and scores? I'm very curious to see the scores, especially for Radeon Pro 560X GPU. Thanks!

    2. How the trackpad feels in Boot Camp? Has anything changed this time?
    I participate in adding some improvements to trackpad in Boot Camp (like, adding gestures for 3/4/5 fingers), so I'm very curious regarding the Mid-2018 status.
    If somebody who owns Mid-2018 model could download the Boot Camp drivers package using the "Boot Camp Assistant" app in macOS (it's top bar menu has such option to just download the drivers), and save them to your computer, archive to .zip and then upload to, say, google drive to share the link me. Please :) Thank you very much.
     
  3. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    I am not sure Apple has BootCamp for the 2018 MBPro complete yet. Still missing some drivers.

    I am holding off on buying mine until I see it can run BootCamp with Win10 Pro
     
  4. dev201 macrumors newbie

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    Apple has not made the Boot Camp drivers available for the 2018 MacBook Pro. Per support, "It is being worked on" but they have no clue when they will be available.
     
  5. dev201 macrumors newbie

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    BOOT CAMP DRIVERS ARE DOWNLOADING AS I TYPE THIS!
     
  6. V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r, Jul 19, 2018
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    V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r macrumors 6502

    V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r

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    Very cool! By the way is wi-fi working reliably now? Two previous generations were known to have constant wi-fi issues in Boot Camp...
    And, one question about audio out, could you check is it now possible to set it to 44.1 KHz in the sound control panel? Previously only 48 KHz have been available in Boot Camp, which was OK for movies, but not bit perfect for ripped CDs or iTunes collection...
     
  7. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    PLEASE POST IF YOU GOT WIN10 UP AND RUNNING. ANY PROBLEMS?
     
  8. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Still waiting to see if you were successful. Looking to do this Friday night!
     
  9. dev201 macrumors newbie

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    Success! Played a bit of rocket league late last night.

    I did have some minor hiccups, but I think it was due to my restore from a previous machine onto the new hardware. All good now.
     
  10. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Thanks. I have WIN10 Pro coming tomorrow on a USB. Not sure if I will need it as I also have a USB with the media creation tool on it. Never done this before, hope that BootCamp has great instructions. Fingers crossed
     
  11. sno1man macrumors regular

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    Installed Win 10 pro spring creators update this morning. I'm not sure if it's because its a brand new machine, but the process seemed glitchier than with the last two older machines I installed boot camp on.

    The fans do get quite loud at one point during the windows install though it's fairly brief. Installing the app specific bootcamp drivers for keyboard, mouse, touch bar took multiple tries with at least a couple of reboots in the middle and lots of messages about "unsupported device..." until it completed.

    After that I installed steam to get access to my games. A few related notes to that.

    1. The installed Radeon drivers ( the machine is the midlevel with the Radeon 560X) that apple provides with boot camp are at least one major version older than what AMD lists as current.

    2. However, trying to install the current drivers from, AMD brings up "no valid hardware..." message and the installer stops.

    3. Possibly related, most of my games seem to run though I've not checked them out extensively for things like frame rate and supported resolutions. BUT... Wolfenstein II wont even launch. Tech support says it's likely the radeon drivers and suggest an update, which brings you back to number 2.

    Last but not least, this is the fastest I've seen windows 10 launch on any machine. Possibly due to the SSDs which all are reporting about. Wake from sleep in Win10 is now also virtually as fast as you can raise the lid.
     
  12. karanlyons macrumors member

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    I’m having a number of issues with Boot Camp and Apple’s drivers on the new MBPs, in addition to the obvious throttling:
    1. Audio lags by up to 2 seconds through the headphone jack. This can be seen in everything from DirectX applications, to YouTube, to even iTunes.
    2. Audio will start to "crackle" throughout the system regardless of output source, intermittently when not under load and consistently under load.
    3. When rebooting from Windows to macOS the internal keyboard and trackpad are disabled, requiring you to kill power to the system entirely to restore control.
     
  13. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    My install of Win10 via BootCamp went with out flaw. First time I did it by myself and very glad it worked so well.
     
  14. happyhippo1337 macrumors regular

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    I can't get it to work on my 2018 MBP 15''. Doesn't matter which tutorial I follow - the external SSD (Samsung T3) is recognized, but simply won't boot. System will always show the Apple logo and give me a prompt to unlock my Mac drive with the password.

    What's going on here? I've read about this issue quite a lot now, no one seems to have a fix for it.
     
  15. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    What is it you can not get to work?

    Are you using BootCamp assistant? I followed the instructions and got Win10 Pro installed with no issues. Never done this before so I was quite happy. Not sure if you can use an external drive for BootCamp.
     
  16. happyhippo1337 macrumors regular

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    The issue was the new (?) secure boot option, I had to boot into Recovery OS and launch the Secure System Start tool or something like that. Turns out I had to disable it completely, for external drives to be allowed to act as a boot device.

    It's now working as it should.

    However two things I need to get figured out are:

    - how can I turn off the internal display? I am using an EGPU and it's a waste of energy.
    - how can I turn off the Touch Bar. I don't want it to display the F1 - F12 keys constantly, that's a guarantee for burn-in.
     
  17. davidoiknine macrumors newbie

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    Hello happyhippo1337,
    I have the same problem you had.
    There is the Apple logo even when I click on Windows.
    So I ran the recovery mode, I clicked on security system..., clicked on the « allow start from external devices ». But same story. It’s not working.
    Can you please help me? Thanks.
    --- Post Merged, Aug 20, 2018 ---
    Sorry, it's ok, I had to completely deactivate the security as you said.
    The problem now is that when I run Windows, it said: "Your PC ran into a problem and needs to restart".
    Do you know how to solve the issue?
    Thanks!!!!!
     
  18. Khross30 macrumors newbie

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    So I ran into this issue too, checking the option to allow external boot devices. My problem didn’t get fixed until I completely turned of the os security option listed about the external boot options. Tried all the options but not having the checks was the only way mine worked even though the documentation says windows OS should be recognized. I wonder if this is only for bootcamp partitions on the same drive as macOS.

    Let me know if this helps you!

    Edit: didn’t see the merged part of your post. Looked like you got it already
     
  19. MD7200 macrumors newbie

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    does anyone have sound problems under bootcamp when playing a game?

     
  20. Shadowless95 macrumors newbie

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    My 13 inches Macbook Pro 2018 also having cracking sound on bootcamp Window10 Pro... How to solve this issue? Need help.. as I already updated to the latest supplementary update 2 still got the same issue..
     
  21. MD7200 macrumors newbie

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    it's up to the bootcamp drivers. Apple has to provide new drivers but when that happens is in the stars...
     
  22. MD7200 macrumors newbie

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    You can try to make an SMC. Shut down Mac, then hold down the power button for 10 seconds. wait a minute and boot into Windows. should have helped some temporarily for a while.
     
  23. sputnikv macrumors 6502

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    How's the heat situation? Is your MBP running particularly hot while in Windows?
     
  24. maflynn Moderator

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    Mine was but the 2nd supplemental update fixed that. Also I found out form another member Macs Fan Control that I run in OSX caused an issue that trickled into windows. I set that to automatic (in OSX), rebooted into windows and its all good. I mentioned macs fan control, because there are members like myself that use it help manage the heat in OSX but it did interfere in windows. Somehow a setting was stuck or impacted so when you were in windows the fans were not running correctly.
     
  25. V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r macrumors 6502

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    Yes, Touch Bar as a rule stays always on in Boot Camp, which is the disaster, as it's an OLED display which may suffer from burn-in effect. But now you can turn off the Touch Bar by an adjustable user inactivity timeout 5-75 seconds (as well as keep it always dimmed which is cool!, or keep only the Esc key when you don't need other keys, etc.). A new 'DimBar' utility for Boot Camp makes these tweaks possible. Note: the DimBar tool works only with Mid-2018 MacBook Pro equipped with Apple T2 coprocessor chip. It doesn't work with 2016-2017 models.
     

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