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Or buy a Windows Laptop with far better graphics performance in a 13” model if so they desire. Better specs all around.

Only the GPU would be superior due to using nVidia. The rest is equal in the best case or worse. Still no Windows machine with four TB3 ports w/ USB 3.1 gen2. Battery life in the Windows world also tends to be inferior.

And of course this is without taking into account how many people downright prefer OS X. Many wouldn’t buy a Windows notebook no matter what.
 
What a misleading article. So really LaptopMag is testing OS file copies and not true SSD copying.
 
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Looks like they are comparing regular ol SATA 3 SSD's to the Macbook's NVME SSD in that table? Or something? That is stupidly misleading if true. I've personally used and benchmarked an XPS 13 - they go much faster than 300 MB/s.

They are probably comparing the base models not configured ones. I think Dell and most others still offer mechanical drives standard.
 
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Is this new SSD speed the same across all 5 of the different storage size options?
(250GB,500GB,1TB,2TB,4TB)
 
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Looks like they are comparing regular ol SATA 3 SSD's to the Macbook's NVME SSD in that table? Or something? That is stupidly misleading if true. I've personally used and benchmarked an XPS 13 - they go much faster than 300 MB/s.
Ahah you are not understanding those test. MBP SSD can reach 3GB/s. Small random writes are different thing. Apple always had incredible SSD.
 
They are probably comparing the base models not configured ones. I think Dell and most others still offer mechanical drives standard.

Good call! The XPS 13 base model uses a standard SATA SSD so that would make sense. Not sure on other models, but they all look like SSD speeds.. mechanical would be much less. Even my 10TB desktop seagate maxes out ~200 MB/s.
 
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Ahah you are not understanding those test. MBP SSD can reach 3GB/s. Small random writes are different thing. Apple always had incredible SSD.

See lec0rsaire's response to my post. My issue is they are comparing an NVME with a standard SATA SSD. That is truly Apples to Oranges... of course the NVME will be faster. And yes, Apple SSDs are nice - you'll never hear me say they aren't.
 
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These are the type of things Apple haters / Windows PC fanboys overlook when determining the true value of an Apple device.

I dont agree with you. It seems the person is using SATA/M.2 SSD on the Win laptops and Apple is using NVME SSD.

If the Win laptops use NVME SSD (these laptops should support it), the result should be the same.

SSD is a commondity not like Apple makes their own SSD you know.
 
Anyone wishing for the "good ole days" now?

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See lec0rsaire's response to my post. My issue is they are comparing an NVME with a standard SATA SSD. That is truly Apples to Oranges... of course the NVME will be faster.
Apple was one of th first to use SSD, also the first pcie based ones. The fact Apple is using pcie based ssd, the fastest around is an advantage. It is simply tastes, and it is the faster SSD in a notebook.
The only flawed test is dirt 3 since it use OpenGL and not Metal.
 
Hahaha ok. The SSD is faster. Now it is worth the 50% price increase over a pc with the same or better specs!

A 1799 computer without a dedicated GPU is ridiculous. But hey it’s got a faster SSD so that should make it up for the GPU.

You should compare it to other computers before making comments like this, you come across less than well-informed. A brief look at the Dell XPS 13 referenced in the article yields a machine with a much lower quality screen( HD only), much lower speed RAM (only 1866, really?), as the article points out, way slower SSD. Oh, and no Graphics card. True its a little cheaper, but not even in the same class, so that would go without saying.
 
These comparison benchmarks are meaningless without knowing what the configurations of each system are.
 
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Or buy a Windows Laptop with far better graphics performance in a 13” model if so they desire. Better specs all around.
Windows laptop are inferior in everything: no one have p3 True Tone Retina display, no one has that fast thunderbolt 3, or SSD and now even CPU. The machine is very slim so integrated GPU is a must but it is a nice GPU anyway. The only flawed tests is to use Dirt3.
 
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How the performance is like running Windows 10 or Linux on the MBP 2018's 13" and 15" models?
 
What good are those speeds if Apple makes it prohibitively expensive to get anything above the unusable stock 256gb? And you can't transfer much to that 256gb can you?
 
You should compare it to other computers before making comments like this, you come across less than well-informed. A brief look at the Dell XPS 13 referenced in the article yields a machine with a much lower quality screen( HD only), much lower speed RAM (only 1866, really?), as the article points out, way slower SSD. Oh, and no Graphics card. True its a little cheaper, but not even in the same class, so that would go without saying.
Where did you find the specifications of the this system?
 
Hmmm.. Interesting article. It made me thinking, since the fully loaded i9 32GB, 1TB is cheaper than what I was expecting and saving, should I add the 2TB SSD option instead, as this is the fastest (and cheapest, compared to speed) storage I can access, or invest later on an eGPU solution to improve the graphics capabilities? Both affect 4K and above video editing performance and I want to future prof the machine as much I can. Or the SSDs still wear fast enough when constantly reading and writing them, resulting to hardware failure sooner?
 
Or buy a Windows Laptop with far better graphics performance in a 13” model if so they desire. Better specs all around.

Cool. match me screen display quality, build quality, battery life, and warranty quality.

You'll pick what? the Dell XPS 13 and the matebook x? Dell actually has really small palm rests. Matebook I don't trust but I do like their design. Final straw. Mac OS. Worth a price difference of a few hundred, but usually you guys are complaining just want to game and I have a ps4 for that
 
Cool. Fast SSD. So when I play War Thunder I can melt the logic board and have all the solder dribble out the one usb port while the fans smokes.
 
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Yeah that's cool, but what I want to know is whether those are MLC or TLC NAND SSD. I don't think they will replace them if I ask it politely (and pay for it) during the 5th year (last year of replacements), and when I buy a laptop, I want it to last 8-10 years. I need a high write count SSD.

The day they start using QLC will be a pain in the ass, when 6 or 7 years after the purchase it begins to slow down, and Apple will tell you "sorry, your machine is already obsolete/vintage, we cannot replace your SSD"
 
"With the resolution set to 1650 x 1050 pixels and the settings on low, the MacBook Pro got only 38.8 frames per second. That’s a lot lower than what Windows systems turned in at the 1920 x 1080 pixels (the MacBook doesn’t offer this resolution)."

The MBP is in fact a Retina Display (native resolution of 2560-by-1600). Would it affect the score negatively? No matter what the answer, macOS relies so heavily on the GPU, I can't believe they still go with cheap implementations anymore.

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And yes I believe the 4.9 GB file copy was done in 2s thanks to APFS which creates an alias only. You can't replicate this speed on Windows no matter what hardware you have. But even if the Mac clearly wins here, it doesn't make the test any more good.
 
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