My KP problem completely disappeared after upgrading to 10.14.3 and cleaning up the system.
MBP 15 2018/32GB/1TB
If "cleaning the system" is required to avoid these T2 crashes then you still have a problem.
My KP problem completely disappeared after upgrading to 10.14.3 and cleaning up the system.
MBP 15 2018/32GB/1TB
They must be working on a resolution and on a T3 I suppose, but nothing has been made public.
If they release a T3 chip shortly after releasing the mini and it fixes everything people will completely lose their minds! Apple can’t have all these bad T2 chips (if that indeed is the cause) out in the world and then pull something like that. Talk about a colossal class action lawsuit!
The first thing would be that Apple needs to acknowledge the bridgeOS errors and T2 problems.
Depending on how far along Apple is on an ARM based laptop, they mat not be putting too much effort into the next gen T2 chip. The functionality of the T2 would move into the new ARM eliminating the T2 (they will no longer need two processors (T2 and Intel)).
I've observed a reproducible crash that seems potentially T2/BridgeOS related--though it does not produce any notable log files.
It's happening whenever I quickly exit clamshell mode with MBP's display set to "Looks like 1440 x 900" rather than the Default.
1. Attach power adapter
2. Connect to external monitor (in my case Dell U2414H via HDMI, though I've reproduced the issue on another display as well)
3. Set MBP resolution to "Looks like 1440 x 900" and external display to native, non-mirrored
4. Close the lid on the MBP so it enters clamshell mode
5. Open the lid back up a few seconds after entering clamshell mode
6. At least 50% of the time, the machine will lock up with the external monitor in a "partially dimmed" state
I've tested this many times (50+ at this point) and have never gotten it to occur with the MBP display set to "Default for display".
Other notes:
- Occurs in clean install
- Does not occur in Safe Mode
- Does not occur on 2017 Macbook Pro
I'd be interested to see if anyone else can reproduce it--particularly other Vega 20 owners.
Thanks, that is interesting... I'd be interested in reading more about your research. My group is developing an Electron app, and we are contemplating updating from 2016 MBP's... I'm wondering if this problem would preclude us using Electron... ?I can report that my 1TB/Vega 20/32GB/i9 is still panicking with "Watchdog detected" on 10.14.3 (18D42). I wrote a bit about my personal journey researching it and here's an excerpt if anyone is interested:
It really depends, is your app very graphic, does it use hardware acceleration (WebGL, Canvas or the like) to render it's UI? If so, I'd hold updating off (unless you have broken keyboards). I should also note that the issue happens mostly when a lot of apps are doing GPU-related stuff and the more displays, the more apps, the longer operations take, and the bigger the chance for deadlocks to hang the GPU.Thanks, that is interesting... I'd be interested in reading more about your research. My group is developing an Electron app, and we are contemplating updating from 2016 MBP's... I'm wondering if this problem would preclude us using Electron... ?
If you look in Console.app, "System Reports", do you have files ending with .gpuRestart? Files ending in .panic? I'm having issues, specifically with Dell monitors and Vega 20 that have something to do with the GPU hanging and failing while trying to restart. [
Yes, that's exactly what's happening. I've waited for a while without anything happening. Not sure if the machine would eventually restart itself (don't really have time to check at the moment).When you say "lock up", is the mouse still working but the system (e.g. windowserver) completely unresponsive? Have you waited until something happened? (e.g. T2 chip panicking?)
I have this same log...
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Incident Identifier: 46927EA0-7161-4A5B-8BDA-F79265104628
CrashReporter Key: c0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0de0001
Date: 2019-01-28 04:35:43.83 +0000
Reset count: 0
Boot failure count: 1
Boot faults: force_off
Boot stage: 255
Boot app: 0
Both times I have gotten this same log, I was utilizing the 'Screens' application to mirror my Mac desktop to my iPad. Upon disconnecting the connection from my iPad > Mac, this is where I've experienced the crash. It doesn't happen every time, just sometimes.
This has probably already been asked & answered somewhere in the last 128 pages, but, is this also affecting 2018 13" models? My line of thought is this doesn't have a dedicated video card? I've never experienced this on my 13" which I've had from launch in Summer.
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"kernel" : "Darwin Kernel Version 18.5.0: Mon Jan 28 20:21:38 PST 2019; root:xnu-4903.250.319~17\/RELEASE_ARM64_T8010",
"macOSOtherString" : "\n** In Memory Panic Stackshot Succeeded ** Bytes Traced 574960 **\n",
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Incident Identifier: D51AACDB-0685-423E-AAB7-CF5D5230A311
CrashReporter Key: c0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0de0001
Date: 2019-02-13 05:33:17.03 +0000
Reset count: 1
Boot failure count: 0
Boot faults:
Boot stage: 0
Boot app: 0
Tue Feb 12 19:00:36 2019
Event: GPU Reset
Date/Time: Tue Feb 12 19:00:36 2019
Application: Google Chrome He
Path:
Tailspin: /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/gpuRestart2019-02-12-190036.tailspin
GPUSubmission Trace ID: 0
OS Version: Mac OS X Version 10.14.3 (Build 18D109)
Graphics Hardware: Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
Signature: 803
Report Data:
===========================================================================
Intel GPU Hang Summary
version 1.2.0
===========================================================================
Schedule: Apple FirmwareMultiple channels per index
Processing hang for hardware context ID[225]
-- Summary of Status for ALL Rings --
RCS Ring is: - busy - in the ring <-- Appears hung
VCS Ring is: - NOT enabled - idle
BCS Ring is: - NOT enabled - idle
VECS Ring is: - NOT enabled - idle
VCS2 Ring is: - NOT enabled - idle
===========================================================================
Hardware Ring Registers
===========================================================================
-- RCS Ring --
RING_HEAD = 0x08204ba4 (offset = 0x00004ba4, wrap count = 65, wait_for_cond = 0x0)
RING_TAIL = 0x00004bc0 (offset = 0x00004bc0)
RING_START = 0x466e7000 (offset = 0x466e7000)
RING_CTRL = 0x00007001 (enabled, auto report disabled (0x00), not waiting, semaphore not waiting, length = 0x008 4KB pages)
-- VCS Ring --
RING_HEAD = 0x00000fa0 (offset = 0x00000fa0, wrap count = 0, wait_for_cond = 0x0)
RING_TAIL = 0x00000fa0 (offset = 0x00000fa0)
RING_START = 0x40e25000 (offset = 0x40e25000)
RING_CTRL = 0x00007000 (disabled, auto report disabled (0x00), not waiting, semaphore not waiting, length = 0x008 4KB pages)
-- BCS Ring --
RING_HEAD = 0x1dc059a0 (offset = 0x000059a0, wrap count = 238, wait_for_cond = 0x0)
RING_TAIL = 0x000059a0 (offset = 0x000059a0)
RING_START = 0x4192c000 (offset = 0x4192c000)
RING_CTRL = 0x00007000 (disabled, auto report disabled (0x00), not waiting, semaphore not waiting, length = 0x008 4KB pages)
-- VECS Ring --
RING_HEAD = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000, wrap count = 0, wait_for_cond = 0x0)
RING_TAIL = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000)
RING_START = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000)
RING_CTRL = 0x00000000 (disabled, auto report disabled (0x00), not waiting, semaphore not waiting, length = 0x001 4KB pages)
-- VCS2 Ring --
RING_HEAD = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000, wrap count = 0, wait_for_cond = 0x0)
RING_TAIL = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000)
RING_START = 0x00000000 (offset = 0x00000000)
RING_CTRL = 0x00000000 (disabled, auto report disabled (0x00), not waiting, semaphore not waiting, length = 0x001 4KB pages)
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BB_ADDR = 0x40005294 (offset = 0x40005294, valid = 0x0)
BB_STATE = 0x00000020
IPEIR = 0x00000000
ACTHD = 0x08204ba4
EIR = 0x00000000
EMR = 0xfffffffa
ESR = 0x00000000
INSTPM = 0x00000000
INSTPS = 0x00008880
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Stamp info for all indexes
===========================================================================
Index Submitted Returned
0: 0x0002f26d 0x0002f260 <- BUSY
1: 0x0000135f 0x0000135f
2: 0x00000000 0x00000000
3: 0x00000000 0x00000000
4: 0x00000533 0x00000533
5: 0x00000604 0x00000604
6: 0x00000d9c 0x00000d9c
7: 0x00008b43 0x00008b43
8: 0x00000035 0x00000035
9: 0x00000032 0x00000032
10: 0x0000006e 0x0000006e
11: 0x0000004f 0x0000004f
12: 0x00000082 0x00000082
13: 0x00000782 0x00000782
14: 0x0000001c 0x0000001c
15: 0x0000003d 0x0000003d
16: 0x00000229 0x00000229
17: 0x0000006a 0x0000006a
18: 0x00000032 0x00000032
19: 0x00000121 0x00000121
20: 0x00000005 0x00000005
21: 0x0000000f 0x0000000f
22: 0x00000200 0x00000200
23: 0x001139a5 0x0011399d <- BUSY
24: 0x00000000 0x00000000
25: 0x00000000 0x00000000
26: 0x00000000 0x00000000
27: 0x00000000 0x00000000
28: 0x00001eb7 0x00001eb7
29: 0x00000dbf 0x00000dbf
30: 0x000014eb 0x000014eb
31: 0x000010d5 0x000010d5
32: 0x0002c87f 0x0002c87f
33: 0x00016b8d 0x00016b8d
34: 0x00001cf7 0x00001cf7
35: 0x0000002f 0x0000002f
36: 0x00000003 0x00000003
37: 0x00000003 0x00000003
38: 0x00000003 0x00000003
39: 0x00000003 0x00000003
40: 0x000000f1 0x000000f1
41: 0x00000023 0x00000023
42: 0x00000002 0x00000002
43: 0x00000002 0x00000002
44: 0x00000002 0x00000002
45: 0x00000018 0x00000018
46: 0x00000002 0x00000002
47: 0x00096618 0x00096618
48: 0x00000000 0x00000000
49: 0x00000000 0x00000000
50: 0x00000000 0x00000000
51: 0x00000000 0x00000000
52: 0x00000000 0x00000000
53: 0x00000000 0x00000000
54: 0x00000000 0x00000000
55: 0x00000000 0x00000000
56: 0x00000000 0x00000000
57: 0x00000000 0x00000000
58: 0x00000000 0x00000000
59: 0x00000000 0x00000000
60: 0x00000000 0x0000cb89 <- BUSY
61: 0x00000000 0x00011b2e <- BUSY
62: 0x00000000 0x00000000
63: 0x00000000 0x00000000
===========================================================================
Scheduler Status
===========================================================================
Submitted Execlists:
RCS: ctxt ID[225] | ctxt ID[0]
VCS: [0/0]
BCS: [0/0]
VECS: [0/0]
VCS2: [0/0]
Blocked Channels:
Work Queue Descriptors:
[ 0]: head 0x86, tail 0x93, refcount_a 5, refcount_u 1, storage_va 0xffffff8110e30000, storage_ga 0x41989000
[ 1]: head 0x3c, tail 0x3c, refcount_a 4, refcount_u 1, storage_va 0xffffff81112d1000, storage_ga 0x41a5a000
[ 6]: head 0x78, tail 0x78, refcount_a 4, refcount_u 1, storage_va 0xffffff8114828000, storage_ga 0x427f9000
[ 7]: head 0x126, tail 0x
I may have had my first kernel panics in the 7 months of owning a 2018 MBP 15", though I'm not entirely sure about it. I believe that I just put my MBP to sleep last evening, as I usually do (rarely ever turn it off overnight if I use it the next day), but when I woke up today, it was completely off and started booting up. The only thing that was connected to it was the USB-C cable connected to the power outlet, no monitors or the like.
Again I'm not 100% sure, maybe I accidentally turned my MBP completely off last night instead of just putting it to sleep. Honestly if I didn't remember all the posts here on MacRumors, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. To those of you more familiar with the kernel panics, could this have been one, or does it sound like a characteristic scenario for a kernel panic to happen? Can I verify somewhere if it was indeed a kernel panic/related to the T2 chip (I heard with the console app but I'm not very familiar with it)? Again I had nothing connected but power, the only related thing I can think about is that I hadn't completely turned off my MBP for 2-3 weeks, so maybe it was running without a break for "too long"? Not sure, lol.
If it won't happen again then I won't worry about it, first time happening. Just thought it was a bit curious and that I'd point it out here.
Sooo, they (the Apple guys and girls) didn't solve the problem? I visited this thread end of November for the last time.
Apple has been aware of the bridgeOS fault for over a year (since the iMac Pro was released).
If it's a hardware issue with the T2, software updates can most likely only mitigate it (reduce the chance it will happen). I doubt we will see a hardware change until Apple comes out with the 2019 model.
I think that most people will put up with the bridgeOS fault if it rarely occurs.
This has probably already been asked & answered somewhere in the last 128 pages, but, is this also affecting 2018 13" models? My line of thought is this doesn't have a dedicated video card? I've never experienced this on my 13" which I've had from launch in Summer.