2018 MBP Vega 20 Worth It?

BuCkDoG

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I just ordered the 2018 15" MacBook Pro with the 2.6 GHz i7, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, and Vega 20 for $2,717 tax included from Apple. Good Deal?
 

Bending Pixels

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Depends upon what you use your MacBook Pro for. If it's just to surf the internet and do email - waste of money. If to do creative work like image or video editing, then it's worth it.
 

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Depends upon what you use your MacBook Pro for. If it's just to surf the internet and do email - waste of money. If to do creative work like image or video editing, then it's worth it.
I do use it for Video and Photo Editing and also use Maya for Computer Animation so I will definitely get good use out of it but its normally $1,000 more expensive that the price I got it for.
 

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Absolutely NOT.

Until they release a legitimate fix to the keyboard (and not a 'bandaid' like they did with the 2018 model), you should avoid any MacBook Pro or MacBook released between 2016-2018.

By some rumors they very well may be releasing a redesigned MBP this year that hopefully will address this major design flaw.

In the meantime, here's some enjoyable reading for you >

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
 

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I do use it for Video and Photo Editing and also use Maya for Computer Animation so I will definitely get good use out of it but its normally $1,000 more expensive that the price I got it for.
I thought that price looked really low. Sounds like a heck of a deal for a 32 GB system.

Is this a new system? If so, can you post a link for others to get in on this deal?
 
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I thought that price looked really low. Sounds like a heck of a deal for a 32 GB system.

Is this a new system? If so, can you post a link for others to get in on this deal?
'Deal', lol.

Most people selling these likely know the keyboard is a ticking time bomb, praying they find a person who doesn't know and will pay good money for a fundamentally flawed machine.
 

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I thought that price looked really low. Sounds like a heck of a deal for a 32 GB system.

Is this a new system? If so, can you post a link for others to get in on this deal?
It is a new machine yes and I will link it to you below.

https://www.apple.com/us_epp_805199/shop/product/G0V1QLL/A/Refurbished-154-inch-MacBook-Pro-26GHz-6-core-Intel-Core-i7-with-Retina-display-Space-Gray?fnode=4ccce0e1f4947bd608c83e57adfe3883d1e82f0290740954b7899c5f3649d50fae29c45d07aa83f2aad9d61bf42e804f8e2b7843d26f44fc19aea5390c801e03c451bd7009c50b50a91d4155161d33a3

'Deal', lol.

Most people selling these likely know the keyboard is a ticking time bomb, praying they find a person who doesn't know and will pay good money for a fundamentally flawed machine.
It is a new machine, not used. If it was used then I would agree.
 

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It is a new machine, not used. If it was used then I would agree.
You're not following. ALL 2016-2018 MacBook pros and MacBooks have a flawed keyboard design that is ticking time bomb.

New or used, it doesn't matter.

AppleCare (assuming you are paying for this extortion) will pay for the first couple of failures. The cost to you will be the hassle and time without your laptop. Then after AppleCare expires, your flawed machine is your problem, and your expense, period.

Why bother with all this?!?!

Read the LINK!

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
 
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BuCkDoG

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You're not following. ALL 2016-2018 MacBook pros and MacBooks have a flawed keyboard design that is ticking time bomb.

New or used, it doesn't matter.

AppleCare (assuming you are paying for this extortion) will pay for the first couple of failures. The cost to you will be the hassle and time without your laptop. Then after AppleCare expires, your flawed machine is your problem, and your expense, period.

Why bother with all this?!?!

Read the LINK!

https://gizmodo.com/apple-slapped-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-faulty-mac-1825983089
I am following quite clear and have purchased a 2016 and 2017 model in the past already and had keyboard issues so I have been there done that. The main reasons how I got to those sticking key issues were due to heat otherwise I never had issues with the keyboards. I don't eat all over the laptop and don't drag it thru the sand like some of these folks do and had my previous rMBP for 7 years without a single issue. I personally think with the 2018 models the keyboards were tweaked enough with the silicone membrane underneath each key to not have such a gigantic fail rate as the previous models. Im not saying the keyboard is down right awesome and the best out there, no not even close, however I do believe this issue is much less widespread on the 2018 models as compared to previous versions and since I'm legit saving $1000 off retail on this device, I can EASILY sell it and not lose practically any money at all.
 
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I just ordered the 2018 15" MacBook Pro with the 2.6 GHz i7, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, and Vega 20 for $2,717 tax included from Apple. Good Deal?
I just speced that machine following your link, and I came out with $3194 for the same configuration.
Hmmm...
 

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I just speced that machine following your link, and I came out with $3194 for the same configuration.
Hmmm...
If you place it under a business or military discount you get to the price I advertised.

 

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I dunno. I have been very pleased with the performance of the 560x but other than video games I thought the 13" dual core model was more than adequate for stitching together my 4k GoPro footage.

If it's a professional expense I think it's worth it if it saves a substantial amount of your time every day. If you're just a hobbyist or student then I'd pass.
 

BuCkDoG

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I dunno. I have been very pleased with the performance of the 560x but other than video games I thought the 13" dual core model was more than adequate for stitching together my 4k GoPro footage.

If it's a professional expense I think it's worth it if it saves a substantial amount of your time every day. If you're just a hobbyist or student then I'd pass.
I would definitely make use of it’s performance capabilities for sure but I can agree with your assessment regarding the machine.
 

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I am following quite clear and have purchased a 2016 and 2017 model in the past already and had keyboard issues so I have been there done that. The main reasons how I got to those sticking key issues were due to heat otherwise I never had issues with the keyboards. I don't eat all over the laptop and don't drag it thru the sand like some of these folks do and had my previous rMBP for 7 years without a single issue. I personally think with the 2018 models the keyboards were tweaked enough with the silicone membrane underneath each key to not have such a gigantic fail rate as the previous models. Im not saying the keyboard is down right awesome and the best out there, no not even close, however I do believe this issue is much less widespread on the 2018 models as compared to previous versions and since I'm legit saving $1000 off retail on this device, I can EASILY sell it and not lose practically any money at all.
i wouldn't be so sure, there is a guy in marketplace who just lost 2 grand on his mbp sale.
 

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i wouldn't be so sure, there is a guy in marketplace who just lost 2 grand on his mbp sale.
Lost 2 grand? I didn't even lose 2 grand selling my 2012 15"rMBP after 7 years and I just sold it last week. Seems very odd that he lost 2k when its their latest model.
 

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Lost 2 grand? I didn't even lose 2 grand selling my 2012 15"rMBP after 7 years and I just sold it last week. Seems very odd that he lost 2k when its their latest model.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2018-15-macbook-pro-2-9ghz-i9-32gb-560x-4gb-2tb-with-applecare.2172878/

ofcourse the options on yours would appreciate a tad better, but if apple releases a redesign this year that solves at least 50 percent of the issues, i.e keyboard, t2, thermal, or flexgate. then expect 2016-2018 mbp to drop their resale value by alot.
 

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The main reasons how I got to those sticking key issues were due to heat otherwise I never had issues with the keyboards. I don't eat all over the laptop and don't drag it thru the sand like some of these folks do and had my previous rMBP for 7 years without a single issue.
I have my doubts that dust and debris are as big of an issue as popular belief would have it. My 2016 is due for a topcase replacement soon, but not because of the keyboard. The battery is degrading faster than expected so I'm getting it replaced under AppleCare within the next few months.

Because it's going to be replaced anyway, I thought I'd just go ahead and be a slob around my 2016's keyboard. I'm already not exactly that careful around it. Granted, I don't use it as a dinner plate, but I don't baby it nor wipe it off nearly as often as I should. I started pounding the keys really hard too to see if the keyboard would crumble. It sort of did. I was hitting the keys so hard that the fastening point of one of the keycaps fractured. The switch mechanism was fine though.

After not cleaning my keyboard for months, it was looking pretty gruesome, but it still worked fine. I finally cleaned it because it was getting embarrasing and also the screen was getting really oily.

The keyboards are definitely glitchy, but people calling it a ticking time bomb are just being overly dramatic. I think the ones that have an issue were likely due to inconsistencies in manufacturing and there were just bad batches where the most egregious failures happened. My 2016 is definitely not a time bomb. I had some sticky keys in my first year of owning it, but nothing since.
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I meant going through the same process in the military storelink , not seeing the same price.
He's quoting from the refurbished store:
https://www.apple.com/us_epp_805199/shop/product/G0V1QLL/A/Refurbished-154-inch-MacBook-Pro-26GHz-6-core-Intel-Core-i7-with-Retina-display-Space-Gray

If you go down to the footer and click the refurb store link while you're in the Veterans portal, you can then dial up a 2018 MBP w/Vega 20, 32GB, 512GB storage. It'll come out to $2717.
 

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The OP is buying it off the refurbished store at $2717, I can tell from the screenshot as I have recently bought on the refurb store (a 2017 model). Confirmed by checking the link. Unfortunately if sold, it will lose a lot of value because it says "refurbished" on the box and also the serial number lookup, when selling it, even though it is still basically like new. It just has a 3 month old logic board, the rest will be new.

My Vega 20 (otherwise standard 2.6 i7 2018) machine has been rock solid with none of the much talked about issues on this forum. And I have been running it very hard for the past four weeks. No (t2) kernel panics ever, even checked console logs in case I missed something. No weird keyboard shenanigans, thermal performance is great, screen is the most perfect MBP screen I've ever seen after having 2016/2017 and base model 2018. No T2 audio weirdness. I feel they must be having issues with some hardware batches from multiple component suppliers, with some people getting 3-4-5 or 6 repeat faulty machines and others getting perfection?