I think you're talking about brightness, not resolution. Nits is a measure of how bright the display is.
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2018 MBPro vs. MBAir Screen
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I think you're talking about brightness, not resolution. Nits is a measure of how bright the display is.
No, I do mean resolution. The 2560x1600 resolution was introduced on the MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2012).
[doublepost=1542143953][/doublepost]In the keynote it was mentioned the Retina MacBook Air has 4x the pixels of the non-Retina Air. That would be 2880x1800, not the same 2560x1600 introduced in 2012.
Sorry, I misread the exchange in your earlier quoted post. Obviously, you're right about the pixel count. There's a lot more to a display than ppi, but that wasn't your point. No idea where that 4x claim came from during the presentation, either. That's just math, and it's wrong.
That's exactly the real question here. It is called over-selling and it has been explained much better than what I would ever could. Imagine if MBA had kept the same architecture as the previous model; a fully-powered cpu and not this low-power, low-consumption fanless-type cpu that MB 12" also has (2017 cpu, but still). It would be the perfect laptop for almost everyone, just like previous MBAs were in their time.
With that price so close to the first MBP model and these poor specs, makes the most tech-aware consumer think that by spending just a bit more will get an MBP. Hence, many people who would end up with MBA and be fine with it, will move to the pricier MBP. The rest would buy the MBA anyway.
Late to the party, but the Air strikes me as just a lower price point to bring new customers into the Apple environment. And if you only need it for light stuff that’s a great starting point for some.
I did convince my daughter several years ago, who thought the Air was light and cute, to go with the Pro. She’s happy she took my advice!
I did convince my daughter several years ago, who thought the Air was light and cute, to go with the Pro. She’s happy she took my advice!
Agree... But I really think Apple is going to ax, or quietly phase out, the nTB.. If they do then the options will be $1199 for the base Air or $1799 for the base Pro... If that happens, the Air will sell like hotcakes regardless of the price hike..
Yeah the problem with the new Air pricing is, unless Apple does as I said above, it makes no sense unless someone really values touchID (like me) and wants to pass on the nTB because it does not have it....
At $999 many purchased the Air without much though but at $1199? I dunno....
But it isn't really a lower price point, if you compare equivalent SSDs. It's only cheaper than the MB if you buy half the fixed storage. If you want 256gb, it's $100 more, and getting into the MBP pricing. This is absolutely not a criticism of the rMBA, it's a criticism (or at least a question) about Apple's marketing and product strategy.
United States is not the whole world... In Canada the Price difference is substantial: 249$... plus taxes = over 275$.
Agreed. I don't live in US either. Still, the MBA is placed in a way (specs, price, disadvantages) that many people seeking an upgrade for their older MBA will go straight to the MBP because of them.
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Well done sir. I just hope the Apple Shriners don't DOX you and show up on your porch pounding on your front door until it cracks demanding that "Hate leave our town!"
The more threads I read regarding the screen brightness “issue”, The more rediculous I find this topic.
Dell, Lenovo, HP, they are all charging $1400+ for their top end business class notebooks and they all stick in sub 300 nit displays. Is anyone getting upset? Nope.
Lenovo sells the X1 Carbon 6th gen, arguably one of the best Windows Laptops you can buy, and yet unless you get the top $3000 model all the rest have 280-300 nit displays. Garbage IPS low nit displays. My $3000 HP Elitebook x360 has a 250 nit display. It honestly looks like my HP has a single candle burning behind the display, like HP thinks people are vampires with night vision. Dell and their high end Lattitude line... don’t get me started with those crap displays and the money they charge.
Yeah... Apple probably should have stuck in a brighter display in 2018, but honestly it won’t ruin your experience and is a decent display. Dell, Lenovo, and Hp sell millions of high end laptops and those all have the crappiest TN/IPS 300 nit displays and yet everyone is fine with those. All the companies do it, but Lenovo and HP charge you more for the same **** display!!
Anyways... 300 nit while not the brightest is still decent. Go view a 220-250nit display and then come back and complain Apple is charging $1200 for the Air.
People need to just enjoy the laptop, and if you really need a bright display go get the Pro line.
I already hear the “but we expect more from Apple...” yeah... we’ll I expect HP and Lenovo two of the top Laptop manufactures who sell more high end laptops then Apple could ever wish, to stick a decent display in a $2-3000 laptop as well. At least with Apple you can actually buy the Pro with a 500nit display for under $1500. In the Windows world, 500nits is reserved for the elite $3k+ laptops.
And off this threads topic but the base 128gb option, same deal. Everyone has the 128GB as base. The difference is Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo get away with charging you more for the same base 128GB storage.
The days of Apple being premium and charging more for the same specs as the PC counter parts are over. Lenovo and HP charge way more $$ for the same low specs as the Air. And yet people buy them in numbers far greater then any Apple product.
The Air’s display is honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. And with some calibration the LCD colours can look really good. Compared to what else is available in the Airs price range it’s a decent display, and arguably far better then what else is on the market in the same price bracket.
Ok, done ranting.
Dell, Lenovo, HP, they are all charging $1400+ for their top end business class notebooks and they all stick in sub 300 nit displays. Is anyone getting upset? Nope.
Lenovo sells the X1 Carbon 6th gen, arguably one of the best Windows Laptops you can buy, and yet unless you get the top $3000 model all the rest have 280-300 nit displays. Garbage IPS low nit displays. My $3000 HP Elitebook x360 has a 250 nit display. It honestly looks like my HP has a single candle burning behind the display, like HP thinks people are vampires with night vision. Dell and their high end Lattitude line... don’t get me started with those crap displays and the money they charge.
Yeah... Apple probably should have stuck in a brighter display in 2018, but honestly it won’t ruin your experience and is a decent display. Dell, Lenovo, and Hp sell millions of high end laptops and those all have the crappiest TN/IPS 300 nit displays and yet everyone is fine with those. All the companies do it, but Lenovo and HP charge you more for the same **** display!!
Anyways... 300 nit while not the brightest is still decent. Go view a 220-250nit display and then come back and complain Apple is charging $1200 for the Air.
People need to just enjoy the laptop, and if you really need a bright display go get the Pro line.
I already hear the “but we expect more from Apple...” yeah... we’ll I expect HP and Lenovo two of the top Laptop manufactures who sell more high end laptops then Apple could ever wish, to stick a decent display in a $2-3000 laptop as well. At least with Apple you can actually buy the Pro with a 500nit display for under $1500. In the Windows world, 500nits is reserved for the elite $3k+ laptops.
And off this threads topic but the base 128gb option, same deal. Everyone has the 128GB as base. The difference is Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo get away with charging you more for the same base 128GB storage.
The days of Apple being premium and charging more for the same specs as the PC counter parts are over. Lenovo and HP charge way more $$ for the same low specs as the Air. And yet people buy them in numbers far greater then any Apple product.
The Air’s display is honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. And with some calibration the LCD colours can look really good. Compared to what else is available in the Airs price range it’s a decent display, and arguably far better then what else is on the market in the same price bracket.
Ok, done ranting.
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