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2019 16" MacBook Pro XDR and beyond!

FrankySavvy

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I think they will call the new 16" MacBook Pro, the MacBook Pro XDR - Higher Resolution Displays with better contrast. Will play off the same marketing as the Pro Display XDR Marketing.

Future lineups will look like this:

Fall 2019 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 13" MacBook Pro
$2399 15" MacBook Pro
$2999 16" MacBook Pro XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design)

Fall 2020 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 13" MacBook Pro
$1799 14" MacBook Pro XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design - introduced at WWDC 2020 replacing the 15")
$2799 16" MacBook Pro XDR (Slim Bezel Design)

Fall 2021 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 12" MacBook Air XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design)
$1599 14" MacBook Pro XDR
$2599 16" MacBook Pro XDR

Fall 2022 Lineup

$999 12" MacBook Air XDR*
$1299 14" MacBook Pro XDR*
$2399 16" MacBook Pro XDR*

*might drop the XDR at this point
 
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Huh?

Mini-LED for MacBook won't come until late 2020 or early 2021.

Apple won't lie and call MacBook with "XDR" if doesn't have mini-LED. You seem to think XDR is some cheap marketing term when the Pro Display XDR is an LCD with an entirely re-engineered backlight.
 
If the numbers are similar at that size in contrast/resoution/brightness they may still use the XDR branding. "X" is for Extra or Extreme Dynamic Range?
 
FrankySavvy said:
I think they will call the new 16" MacBook Pro, the MacBook Pro XDR - Higher Resolution Displays with better contrast. Will play off the same marketing as the Pro Display XDR Marketing.

Future lineups will look like this:

Fall 2019 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 13" MacBook Pro
$2399 15" MacBook Pro
$2999 16" MacBook Pro XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design)

Fall 2020 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 13" MacBook Pro
$1799 14" MacBook Pro XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design - introduced at WWDC 2020 replacing the 15")
$2799 16" MacBook Pro XDR (Slim Bezel Design)

Fall 2021 Lineup

$999 13" MacBook Air
$1299 12" MacBook Air XDR (All New Slim Bezel Design)
$1599 14" MacBook Pro XDR
$2599 16" MacBook Pro XDR

Fall 2022 Lineup

$999 12" MacBook Air XDR*
$1299 14" MacBook Pro XDR*
$2399 16" MacBook Pro XDR*

*might drop the XDR at this point
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I don't think they'll call it XDR, it'll just be a slightly better LCD, the'll just use rounded corners and call it liquid retina. The XDR monitor is thick as hell because it requires a ton of LED's and cooling to hit that brightness. The back is a heatsink.
 
FrankySavvy said:
If the numbers are similar at that size in contrast/resoution/brightness they may still use the XDR branding. "X" is for Extra or Extreme Dynamic Range?
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The current MacBook Pro can't even do HDR10 due to sub-par brightness. It'll be an improvement when MBP supports HDR.

I seriously don't think Apple will take the $4,999 XDR branding and slap it on the MacBook with a regular LED display. MacBook XDR isn't coming any time soon.
 
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I agree with the notion that there will be a 16" slim bezel device soon, and a 14" will come sometime after it as they phase out the current lineup. But I think it will just be called the Pro. I can't see Apple rebranding it any time soon.
 
There is unlikely to be a name change as there wasn’t even one for the touch bar. 16” will be enough of a differentiator.

The 13” and 15” will probably hang around as the cheaper options, like the non-touch bar models did. 14” will arrive at some point.
 
The engineering barriers that are needed to be tackled to realize HDR display on a laptop will be there for some more years. The backlight brightness and power consumption, cooling etc are already problems enough for standalone displays with AC power and dedicated fans.
 
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We know nothing. We only know that some analysts say that there is a new model coming.
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In other words folks, it’s just guessing, not solid information from anyone. I always get a kick out of those asking is Apple going to do this, that or the other thing and we just don’t know. Maybe they should call this MacGuessing instead of Mac rumors. :confused:
 
xb2003 said:
I agree with the notion that there will be a 16" slim bezel device soon, and a 14" will come sometime after it as they phase out the current lineup. But I think it will just be called the Pro. I can't see Apple rebranding it any time soon.
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They have to differentiate the model this year from the existing lineup. Thats why I say Pro X or Pro XDR
 
FrankySavvy said:
They have to differentiate the model this year from the existing lineup. Thats why I say Pro X or Pro XDR
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Why? They didn't in 2012 or 2016.

As far as I can see, there are three scenarios (assuming the 16" MBP gets introduced at all this year):
  1. The new 16" model model replaces the 15" line completely (as in, the 15" MBP simply becomes the 16" MBP) at the same price point
  2. The new 16" model replaces the higher-end 15" model and both old and new 15" coexist at the same time at different price points (just at they did it when they introduced retina in 2012 or TB in 2016). The 16" has an array of features that is used to justify the higher price point (e.g. better GPU, some other stuff).
  3. The new 16" is a completely new larger laptop with larger GPU and focus on premium performance.

I believe that we will see scenario 1 or 2.
 
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In 2012 they introduced the Retina display and it was MacBook Pro with Retina display, in 2016 it was a complete redesign. I think since this MacBook Pro is rumored to start at $3000 it will be a premium tier this year, so I believe they are going to market the 16" with a special name.
 
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The interesting one to watch will be the $1,799 13" - so many competing windows machines now come with low end dedicated graphics, I wonder if you're not right that they will drop it from the lineup until it can be redesigned into a larger 14" to support that as well? Particularly as the $1,299 model is now so close to it with no really big differentiating features (touch bar, quad core).
 
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