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So we are all pumped and super happy for the iPad Pro leaks. Heck same resolution and A12X its gonna be a monster.

But whats missing ? What could Apple possibly have instore for 2019 ?

They same thing they pulled off in 2017. A Major Display upgrade.

In 2016 we got the iPad Pro and loved it. What did Apple offer as a Follow up in 2017 a major display Update with 120Hz Pro Motion.

In 2019 Apple will keep the same body and design and Offer an iPad Pro with an. 4K OLED HDR @ 120Hz
 
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Doubt they will update the screen that significantly a year after a redesign. There’s a reason they aren’t using OLED this year. It’s too expensive. Prices won’t decrease that significantly after 1 year either
 
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I have my doubts. The cons of OLED have been discussed too often to be repeated here anymore. The Pro is not designed as a consumption device primarily.
 
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I have my doubts. The cons of OLED have been discussed too often to be repeated here anymore. The Pro is not designed as a consumption device primarily.

Ive used every generation of ipads since launch and once they went pro i never looked back.

So i can say this for sure, there will be no ipad pro 2019.

The ipad pros are a rougly 18 month device, meaning they wont put one out every year, more like once every year and a half.

The first pro came out november 2015. Then the smaller one 6 months later (same specs just with apple pencil if i recall correctly) then the next gen both came out in June 2017 and now November 2018

There will likely be a updated cheeper ipad in march but i highly doubt there will be a 2019 pro.

My guess March or WWDC 2020 at the earliest. Maybe it will have OLED but whats the advantage of it over LCD? In a tablet not much. Its too expensive and you can get burn in Sure the image quality is breattaking but manufacturing it at current prices isnt worth it espically for a device apple wants to keep under a grand entry level.

Lets see what they anounce in a week and get our hands on that first before we go into the next gen model.
 
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I heard Apple is waiting until MicroLED is ready. It is brighter and more power-efficient than OLED, and doesn’t suffer from burn-in. So i wouldn’t hold your breath for OLED for the ipad in 2019 or ever.
 
Doubt they will update the screen that significantly a year after a redesign. There’s a reason they aren’t using OLED this year. It’s too expensive. Prices won’t decrease that significantly after 1 year either

Wrong. Samsung has been using a 9.7in (Galaxy Tab S3) OLED screen for over a year now and the recently launched 10.5in Galaxy Tab S4 has a slightly larger OLED screen with even better PPI than Apple's IPad Pro. I have both last year's iPad Pro 10.5in and the new Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 and the Samsung S4's OLED screen is hand's down better. It's a truly amazing screen and better than my 10.5in iPad Pro in every way except the refresh rate. I also paid slightly less for the Galaxy Tab S4 than my iPad Pro.

Apple most certainly can put a 10.5in OLED screen on the iPad Pro and they could do so without it being overly expensive.
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I heard Apple is waiting until MicroLED is ready. It is brighter and more power-efficient than OLED, and doesn’t suffer from burn-in. So i wouldn’t hold your breath for OLED for the ipad in 2019 or ever.

Burn in is NOT an issue with these OLED screens. Apple has stated as such with the iPhone X line (which I have and the screen on which has been active for average more hours a day than my iPad Pro 10.5in and there is NO burn-in...0%. Let me say this again...Apple does not consider burn-in on their OLED screen devices to be an issue.
 
The LCDs are made by Samsung, so that’s kinda funny.
What's funny is that you think that Samsung is the sole supplier of LCD screens to Apple. It's also LG and JDI.

Who manufacturers the screens is irrelevant, I'm happy with the quality and performance of the LCD panels Apple uses and tunes for their products.
 
What's funny is that you think that Samsung is the sole supplier of LCD screens to Apple. It's also LG and JDI.

Who manufacturers the screens is irrelevant, I'm happy with the quality and performance of the LCD panels Apple uses and tunes for their products.
I never said Samsung was the sole supplier. Don’t be so high & mighty.
 
There hasn’t been any rumours regarding OLED and all rumours turn out to be pretty accurate at this point (we’re only a week away from the announcement) so I doubt it. Also, what about ProMotion? I’m not sure it’s currently possible with OLED, especially on a larger display, although Apple does tend to introduce some new tech/feature on their iPad displays; first TrueTone and then ProMotion... I still don’t think it will be OLED though, I believe they will have a Liquid Retina display along with the redesign with slimmer bezels, no home button and FaceID as enough of an upgrade.
 
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OLED isn’t currently capable of 120hz so I doubt we will see a 120hz OLED panel. My money is on upcoming microled panela much farther down the road
 
OLED isn’t currently capable of 120hz so I doubt we will see a 120hz OLED panel. My money is on upcoming microled panela much farther down the road

You sure you are not thinking of the current HDMI limitation of 60hz at 4K from an external source? As I’d be surprised if an OLED screen itself would be limited to 60Hz with an internal signal from an app.

This article suggests they are capable, which makes sense to me.

https://www.blurbusters.com/first-impressions-of-120fps-hfr-on-4k-lg-oled/
 
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There’s a reason they aren’t using OLED this year. It’s too expensive.

What are you basing that on? Samsung, Toshiba, and Dell have shipped tablets with OLED for years, and there are several OLED notebook computers too, and none are significantly more expensive than LCD based alternatives.
 
This is my opinion, I think it is clear that this year we will see a new form factor, what I'm also thinking is a price bump. It is far easier to increase prices when devices look completely different. Next year and the subsequent years I doubt the form factor will change but Apple needs to be seen to be offering value and features in new products to maintain such pricing levels.

A quick win is OLED in 2020 and 5K+ resolution 5464x4096, this is assuming 18 month upgrade cycle for iPad Pro's. My reasoning for a long revision cycle is that they did it before with iPad Pro 1st Gen to 2nd Gen (12.9) and then the fact they are so far ahead in the tablet market with specs and apps they have no need to keep revising the device annually.
 
The screen tech used now is fine with me. OLED is just going to get people to scream about blue shift. Heck all screen shift when view at an angle. Not thinking we will get OLED screens in 2019 but then I did not think we would ever see a successor to the SE either!
 
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So we are all pumped and super happy for the iPad Pro leaks. Heck same resolution and A12X its gonna be a monster.

But whats missing ? What could Apple possibly have instore for 2019 ?

They same thing they pulled off in 2017. A Major Display upgrade.

In 2016 we got the iPad Pro and loved it. What did Apple offer as a Follow up in 2017 a major display Update with 120Hz Pro Motion.

In 2019 Apple will keep the same body and design and Offer an iPad Pro with an. 4K OLED HDR @ 120Hz

I kind of want an OLED, but I’d only want it if Apple can create a new iOS feature to allow one to save their own screen savers or just provide one themselves to prevent image retention.

Also, I don’t really think we will get an iPad Pro until maybe Spring 2020. Upgrade cycles have been 1- 1 1/2+ years (and I could see Apple doing a Mini 5 and iPad 7th gen only in 2019) to perhaps hold off the new Pros for the iPad‘s 10th Birthday. So I think Apple may hold off on an iPad Pro 2019 and also save OLED for the 2020 version. It just makes a little more sense to me, plus there isn’t much else they could do to the iPad IF we get this rumored huge new upgrade/update THIS year.





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What are you basing that on? Samsung, Toshiba, and Dell have shipped tablets with OLED for years, and there are several OLED notebook computers too, and none are significantly more expensive than LCD based alternatives.

“It will continue to feature a standard LCD display, though, with Apple unable to use OLED at this time due to technical and financial constraints.”

Source: https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-pro/
 
I never said Samsung was the sole supplier. Don’t be so high & mighty.
That's exactly what you implied with your comment and you tried to be snarky about it but failed.

I'm sorry for calling you out and correcting your poor attempt at a joke.
 
Wrong. Samsung has been using a 9.7in (Galaxy Tab S3) OLED screen for over a year now and the recently launched 10.5in Galaxy Tab S4 has a slightly larger OLED screen with even better PPI than Apple's IPad Pro. I have both last year's iPad Pro 10.5in and the new Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 and the Samsung S4's OLED screen is hand's down better. It's a truly amazing screen and better than my 10.5in iPad Pro in every way except the refresh rate. I also paid slightly less for the Galaxy Tab S4 than my iPad Pro.

Apple most certainly can put a 10.5in OLED screen on the iPad Pro and they could do so without it being overly expensive.
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Burn in is NOT an issue with these OLED screens. Apple has stated as such with the iPhone X line (which I have and the screen on which has been active for average more hours a day than my iPad Pro 10.5in and there is NO burn-in...0%. Let me say this again...Apple does not consider burn-in on their OLED screen devices to be an issue.
Not necessarily. Samsung makes those screens. I'm sure there's some departmental markup (they aren't losing money on the device) but they get those screen for far cheaper. Like Apple's proprietary SOCs, small-device OLEDs are a Samsung advantage. LG is also (at least in the USA) the only company who sells (relatively) inexpensive OLED TV's because they are the only company that makes that type of panel, saves the margin, and can afford to make the Bx series televisions.

Burn-in is WILDLY overrated, I agree. But it does happen. I don't think it would be a problem with the iPad but it is real.

The other issue with OLED—at least Samsung-style, pentile OLED displays—is that you need a higher resolution for the same visual acuity. The higher resolution for the iPhone X and Galaxy devices sounds cool but the real reason for it is to hide the graininess and other artifacts that crop up with pentile type displays. Going to 3X retina on an iPad really would be pushing up to 4k, which sounds cool but slows the whole machine down for very little benefit. The biggest benefit of OLED is the true black. Which is real and I want it, but I think Apple is probably right in putting off implementing it right now.

If Apple surprises us with OLED next week I'll be thrilled, but after giving it some thought I'm not holding out for it. I'll upgrade this generation and hopefully not again until microLED.
 
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That's exactly what you implied with your comment and you tried to be snarky about it but failed.

I'm sorry for calling you out and correcting your poor attempt at a joke.
I wasn’t joking though. Samsung does make LCD panels for most of Apple’s devices. Never said all of their devices nor did I say imply anything. You’re just being obtuse and brand loyal. Only reason Apple uses other panels is simply because one manufacturer can’t make enough for demand.
 
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