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Haven't seen this thread before. I own these two models and use them both. It's really interesting from the standpoint that the 16" Pro was "the good Intel macbook" of the last batch. Less thermal throttle. No silly low quality keyboard. An actual GPU that could drive modern video productivity software well. It's not as clear-cut as when comparing a late Intel Macbook Air or 13" Pro.

In a pure "let's load it up with work and watch it compute"-scenario, the difference is mostly pretty small. They're both pretty mediocre as "render machines" compared to the pro laptops(/desktops) of today. My 10C M2 will win a "render-race" most if not all of the time, but it's not earth-shattering.

While interacting with the machine, the M2 has the upper hand. Its high per-core performance makes it "snappy" and the increased response times are subtly making an impact. Also, when something say a plugin or something else that is typically single-threaded is used, the M2 will usually just smoke the Intelbook. Though I've also noticed that some plugins in DaVinci Resolve seem to favor the Intel-macbook. If it's down to the AMD GPU or Intel CPU (say AVX-accelerated stuff perhaps) I can't say for sure. The margins are pretty slim, regardless.

What I miss the most from the Pro is having all that system memory. There is nothing magical that make ARM macs require less RAM than their Intel counterparts. I wish the 24GB config on offer had actually been 32GB at least.. The impact for me here is sometimes felt when doing true "I don't wanna close nuffin'" workflows with multiple heavy software being left open. However different workflows put entirely different requirements on memory, so YMMV.

The real win is indeed how much weight and size that is shaved off for a machine that can do pretty much the same things as the big one. And yeah.. one will likely be abandoned by software way sooner than the other.
 
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I kept my 2019 16". When I want a lite tote, I use the MBA. I did it with the M1, sold it, got the M2. You won't get anywhere the 2019's true value if you sell or trade so just keep it. I do the same stuff as you minus the cad, and I like having both as I also have access to Boot Camp on the 2019.
I like your thinking!! 😀
 
Haven't seen this thread before. I own these two models and use them both. It's really interesting from the standpoint that the 16" Pro was "the good Intel macbook" of the last batch. Less thermal throttle. No silly low quality keyboard. An actual GPU that could drive modern video productivity software well. It's not as clear-cut as when comparing a late Intel Macbook Air or 13" Pro.

In a pure "let's load it up with work and watch it compute"-scenario, the difference is mostly pretty small. They're both pretty mediocre as "render machines" compared to the pro laptops(/desktops) of today. My 10C M2 will win a "render-race" most if not all of the time, but it's not earth-shattering.

While interacting with the machine, the M2 has the upper hand. Its high per-core performance makes it "snappy" and the increased response times are subtly making an impact. Also, when something say a plugin or something else that is typically single-threaded is used, the M2 will usually just smoke the Intelbook. Though I've also noticed that some plugins in DaVinci Resolve seem to favor the Intel-macbook. If it's down to the AMD GPU or Intel CPU (say AVX-accelerated stuff perhaps) I can't say for sure. The margins are pretty slim, regardless.

What I miss the most from the Pro is having all that system memory. There is nothing magical that make ARM macs require less RAM than their Intel counterparts. I wish the 24GB config on offer had actually been 32GB at least.. The impact for me here is sometimes felt when doing true "I don't wanna close nuffin'" workflows with multiple heavy software being left open. However different workflows put entirely different requirements on memory, so YMMV.

The real win is indeed how much weight and size that is shaved off for a machine that can do pretty much the same things as the big one. And yeah.. one will likely be abandoned by software way sooner than the other.
Thanks for your feedback. I’m starting to feel the slow down with the 2019 MBP 16”.
Especially when it comes to exporting Video from Premier Pro.
 
Thank you all for your comments / insights.

I’m pretty much in the same shoes.
Having the MBP 16” 2019 and thinking about the MBA M2 but also a little bit about the Mac Mini M2 Pro (which is hopefully coming soon)
The only thing I do is Lightroom and Final Cut (no heavy stuff).
Why the Mac Mini M2? It turned out that the MBP wasn’t moved much. 29 charging cycles in 3 years :)
Mostly on vacation time
 
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Thank you all for your comments / insights.

I’m pretty much in the same shoes.
Having the MBP 16” 2019 and thinking about the MBA M2 but also a little bit about the Mac Mini M2 Pro (which is hopefully coming soon)
The only thing I do is Lightroom and Final Cut (no heavy stuff).
Why the Mac Mini M2? It turned out that the MBP wasn’t moved much. 29 charging cycles in 3 years :)
Mostly on vacation time
Desktop Macs are great. I personally really like the iMac. They are a little pricy and I would want an M2 version but they are really nice computers.

I am too mobile to use a desktop but their are a lot of advantages to them specially in the x86 windows world where you can repair/replace parts yourself like ram, ssd, and dgpu. You get a bigger screen, can add better speakers and thermals are generally better no matter if it is a Mac or otherwise.

Your 2019 MBP still has a lot of life still left in it though. Maybe wait until M3 version of MBA comes out if you go that route. Probably around summer next year.
 
Desktop Macs are great. I personally really like the iMac. They are a little pricy and I would want an M2 version but they are really nice computers.

I am too mobile to use a desktop but their are a lot of advantages to them specially in the x86 windows world where you can repair/replace parts yourself like ram, ssd, and dgpu. You get a bigger screen, can add better speakers and thermals are generally better no matter if it is a Mac or otherwise.

Your 2019 MBP still has a lot of life still left in it though. Maybe wait until M3 version of MBA comes out if you go that route. Probably around summer next year.
I always say, buy for your needs now, not what they will be next year. Tech moves too fast to play the game. Buy the time the M3 is released, the rumours for the M4 will be in full swing and be trying convince you to wait that one out lol.

Buy what you want or need now. The hardware in these is so powerful, that as long as you're buying fir your needs, it will fit them just fine for year to come. The fact that this m2 air chips out does almost every other laptop out there and without a fan, still speaks volumes to me
 
I have both. The M2 air is significantly faster. I don't have detailed tests between the two because I just don't have the time for that but on my Air I've:

-Ran simulations in Houdini.
-Edited and exported 4k video in Final Cut
-Made music in logic (only 20 tracks because I got bored adding them but this thing handled it no issue)
-Did lots of programming work
-Animated and rendered in Blender (mind you Blender isn't optimized for metal yet, or wasn't on the version I used when testing).
-Played some video games.

This thing handled it all beautifully and only the rendering in Blender was faster, and not by much.
Awsome info!

Thanks!
 
What I miss the most from the Pro is having all that system memory. There is nothing magical that make ARM macs require less RAM than their Intel counterparts. I wish the 24GB config on offer had actually been 32GB at least.. The impact for me here is sometimes felt when doing true "I don't wanna close nuffin'" workflows with multiple heavy software being left open. However different workflows put entirely different requirements on memory, so YMMV.

The real win is indeed how much weight and size that is shaved off for a machine that can do pretty much the same things as the big one. And yeah.. one will likely be abandoned by software way sooner than the other.
One of the 14" MBP machines might have been a better fit for you if 32+ GB of memory was a key requirement, and the 14" machine is substantially lighter than its big brother. On the other hand, the MacBook Air is 25% lighter than the 14" MBP.

I replaced my 2019 16" MBP (i9 no upgrades) with the M2 MBA and I am happy with the switch. The size and weight difference is huge compared to the 16" machine, and the performance is indeed snappy. I'll get up to around 21GB of memory usage if I am running a Windows VM along with the usual applications: Chrome, Outlook and other Office apps, Quicken, Lightroom, Photoshop). The only video rendering I do is with an app called RaceRender and it's neither threaded nor does it make use of the GPU cores. 24GB works for my needs.
 
I have both of these machines. (My wife's M2 MBA with 16GB/512GB) and the 2019 Intel MBP (32GB/1TB).
The 2019 is my daily driver (work machine), but pretty much any task I do on the M2 MBA will run circles around the beefier intel model. It's quite amazing actually.
 
i own both machines and i ilke not having fans anymore on the air!
the battery life is HUGE compared, it lasts a full day for me. the air feels snappier and is much lighter.
 
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