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darkmatter343

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Is the 2020 Base model 13” still capable of running Mojave since it has the exact same hardware, just the newer keyboard? Hopefully Apple didn’t block it, would lone to get the newer 13” and still use Mojave.
 

chrfr

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Is the 2020 Base model 13” still capable of running Mojave since it has the exact same hardware, just the newer keyboard? Hopefully Apple didn’t block it, would lone to get the newer 13” and still use Mojave.
Nope, Catalina only. 10.15.4 or later, to be more specific.
 

Fishrrman

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No.
No way.

Aside:
You could run Mojave using a "virtual machine" created with Parallels or VMWare Fusion.
But BOOT IT from Mojave?
Forget it.
 

chrfr

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That really stinks considering it’s using the exact same hardware as the 2019 that could... Apple just blocked it :(
The Touch Bar/keyboard is not the same. There are no Macs using those new parts which support Mojave.
 

darkmatter343

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The Touch Bar/keyboard is not the same. There are no Macs using those new parts which support Mojave.

Sure... the keyboard changed, but not the CPU or board... internally it’s the same components... same th gen CPU etc... it’s just got a new Keyboard and Esc key and is labeled 2020 refresh, but internally the board and CPU are the same, same SSD, same Ram, etc. Apple just locked it down with Catalina. Oh well.
 

matram

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The oldest version of MacOS you can run is the one that was current when your machine was first released.

Drivers will differ and Apple will not port older OSes to new hardware. This is how it has always been. If you want an older OS you have to buy an older system.
 
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jerryk

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Matram is correct. This has been the same as long as I have used MBPs. Early OSes do not know about the new models and may not have the drivers needed to support the new unit.
 

darkmatter343

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The oldest version of MacOS you can run is the one that was current when your machine was first released.

Drivers will differ and Apple will not port older OSes to new hardware. This is how it has always been. If you want an older OS you have to buy an older system.
Matram is correct. This has been the same as long as I have used MBPs. Early OSes do not know about the new models and may not have the drivers needed to support the new unit.

I get what you’re all saying, and I’ve known that myself, but I think you’re missing my point. While the base 2020 MBP is “new”, and it does have a new keyboard and esc key, the main board, cpu, and ram are the same. ALL the drivers needed to run the 2020 base, are already in Mojave, because it’s got exactaly the same guts! Yes... I understand that it currently won’t run because Mojave won’t have the code to properly recognize the newer model number, or Axxxx Code, but Mojave “could” run on it. It’s got the exact same CPU and Mainboard...

You all answered my question, so thanks for that, because I wasn’t sure if Apple was allowing Mojave to be installed on the 2020. But from a driver perspective, it could run, just it wouldn’t recognize the model number etc. But if you opened up a 2019 base, and a 2020 base, they have the exact same guts, albeit a new keyboard (Which is a switch change only) and doens’t exactly require software updates for new switches :)
 
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