2020 MBA with hyperthreading?

PianoPro

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Which 2020 MBA's have hyper threading? Trying to decide between the i5 and i7 to purchase for my granddaughter.
 
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Erehy Dobon

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All of them I assume.

My dual-core i5-equipped Air 2019 has hyper-threading enabled: four threads.
 

troop231

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Sorry I don't see hyper threading mentioned anywhere in that article. What link are you referring to?

Go here and select the generation of CPU, then look for the CPU you're interested in and then scroll down to the Advanced Technologies section, it will list Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology.

Short answer: yes, all of the MBAs have hyper-threading.
 

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Sorry I don't see hyper threading mentioned anywhere in that article. What link are you referring to?
If you click on, say the i3-1000G4, you're directed to a table which says that CPU has "Cores (threads)" of "2 (4)".
 

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Go here and select the generation of CPU, then look for the CPU you're interested in and then scroll down to the Advanced Technologies section, it will list Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology.

Short answer: yes, all of the MBAs have hyper-threading.
Thanks for trying to help but that's not convincing. None of the listed 10th Gen processors match the MBA processors, so we don't know what custom version Apple might be using. And all of them include the following note about hyper threading:

This feature may not be available on all computing systems. Please check with the system vendor to determine if your system delivers this feature
 

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Thanks for trying to help but that's not convincing. None of the listed 10th Gen processors match the MBA processors, so we don't know what custom version Apple might be using. And all of them include the following note about hyper threading:

This feature may not be available on all computing systems. Please check with the system vendor to determine if your system delivers this feature
The processors Apple use inherit anything in that list.. rest assured they have hyper-threading which is a pretty old technology. :)
 
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The processors Apple use inherit anything in that list.. rest assured they have hyper-threading which is a pretty old technology. :)
Again thanks for trying to help. That technology was old when the Mac mini was introduced without it in 2 or its 3 versions.

And again, the note specifically says the feature may not be available on all systems even though the processors has that capability. What I'm looking for is an article or reference to Apple saying it has hyper threading, which is something they previously said about Macs that have it. They don't mention it on their web page or in the MBA specs. I called Apple today and the sales person didn't know. I was looking for someone that has seen something official from Apple.
 

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None of the listed 10th Gen processors match the MBA processors, so we don't know what custom version Apple might be using.
I don't get how they don't match. The lowest-end model, for example, matches the i3-1000G4 processor exactly, which is what Wikipedia lists. There's absolutely no evidence of a "custom version".

Multiple people have told you the answer, if you don't want to believe us, then don't ask us.
 

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I don't get how they don't match. The lowest-end model, for example, matches the i3-1000G4 processor exactly, which is what Wikipedia lists. There's absolutely no evidence of a "custom version".
I was looking at the i5 versions because I want a quad core. There is not a match of clock rate turbo boost in the i5 versions. Perhaps Apple limits the turbo boost for heat reasons.

I tend to believe all of them do have hyper threading. I'm not trying to be difficult. But after the Mac mini disappointment not having it in their i3 and i5 versions, I want to be sure before ordering one.
 

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I was looking at the i5 versions. There is not a match of clock rate turbo boost in the i5 versions. Perhaps Apple limits the turbo boost for heat reasons.
No. It's the opposite. Apple is listing the configurable-TDP up frequency. They match the Wikipedia list exactly.
 

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No. It's the opposite. Apple is listing the configurable-TDP up frequency. They match the Wikipedia list exactly.
Ah, interesting. Thanks. I'm a EE, but this is not my area of knowledge, or ordinarily interest.
 

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Ah, interesting. Thanks. I'm a EE, but this is not my area of knowledge, or ordinarily interest.
Intel's got the single biggest development budget for any IC in the world, so they are the most complex. Not helped by their marketing department's ability to shovel in features that aren't that useful and names that aren't descriptive.
 

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Intel's got the single biggest development budget for any IC in the world, so they are the most complex. Not helped by their marketing department's ability to shovel in features that aren't that useful and names that aren't descriptive.
Yeah, I don't have the time or interest to follow Intel's CPU specs because I don't design them into my products. So I do appreciate your help and education (being a touch rude wasn't necessary though).
 

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I'm betting Apple has somehow given their people the wrong information and somehow left it off their own web pages. We will know for sure tomorrow when someone here gets one. But for what it is worth, or just amusement if they are indeed wrong, here is what I was told today by Apple.

I called Apple and talked to a 2nd level tech person. He told me that none of the 2020 MBA's have hyper-threading. He referenced the "Which processor is right for you?" popup on this page (which says nothing about hyper-threading):


If you check the similar "Which processor is right for you?" for the MacBook Pro, or Mac-mini, you will see they accurately say which Mac versions of those products have hyper-threading, and which don't (the i3 and i5 Mini's). It's possible, although I strongly doubt it, that it is not MBA enabled for product positioning reasons versus the MacBook Pro. More likely they just screwed up their web page and documentation to their staff (he said he searched all the MBA docs he was provided).
 
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Desktop i3s and i5s don't support hyper-threading. For the 8th gen (Mac mini), quad-core mobile i3s do not support hyper-theading, while dual core i3s do. It appears all 10th gen mobiles support hyper-threading.
 

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