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I sure hope this is bogus since the only reason I would consider upgrading my iPP 11” is an OLED screen.
 
Traditional LED backlit cant do HDR (regardless of what they claim on the spec sheet). The point of HDR is that you get a wider color space. Bright is brighter while retaining details on darker part on that scene

That thing can only be done on full array led or OLED.
Good to know. I dislike HDR content.

Since Apple doesn't believe in giving users an option to view HDR content as SDR, watching them with a traditional LCD iDevice/Mac/external monitor is the only way for me to avoid being flashbanged by the extra bright HDR content
 
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Why oh why... I've been patiently waiting for oled iPad since 2015. If the rumor is true, this really blows. I'm also sensing this rumor was credted by the other parties aid to current stangant pro iPad product line sales boost. Although few in the forum might ask me why would I want oled so bad... I just can't stand "blooming"
 
My wife hates her 12 with the mini-LED - terrible blooming in her ereader. I would specifically not upgrade next year if the new 11's have mini-LED.
 
Probably not gonna happen to give EU the middle finger. Samsung and Google not happy about this and is also fighting it. I’m not in support of it because this means it’s back to bulkly phones. Glued in battery somewhat sucks but it offers thinner and more portable phones.
Or they make two different phone models, which is certainly possible.

The EU one wouldn't have a built-in battery, but would be powered by an external brick connected by a USB-C cord.

;-)
 
My comment (and the one I was replying to) related to OLED TVs, not handheld devices.

There is a big difference in the effects of room ambient light between a handheld device 18 inches from your eyes, and a TV 9-10 feet away. I know if I had an OLED TV in the room where I have my primary TV, it would be practically unusable during certain times of the day. I am sitting in that same room typing in a 1st Gen iPad Pro with no issues whatsoever.

Handheld devices like iPhone take even more abuse and various environments when it comes to peak brightness? And yet OLED on iPhone has been one of the best smartphone display you can get. Bright enough for outdoor sunlight, nice and vivid for dark/indoor usage.

Static images also a norm for iPhone, no apparent burn in I can see. So really, there's no reason to just not bring OLED on next gen iPad Pros. Been holding my 10.5" Pro for a bit too long and I don't want another LCD based iPad.
 
Handheld devices like iPhone take even more abuse and various environments when it comes to peak brightness? And yet OLED on iPhone has been one of the best smartphone display you can get. Bright enough for outdoor sunlight, nice and vivid for dark/indoor usage.

Static images also a norm for iPhone, no apparent burn in I can see. So really, there's no reason to just not bring OLED on next gen iPad Pros. Been holding my 10.5" Pro for a bit too long and I don't want another LCD based iPad.
Phone screen are not usually on as continuously as an iPad screen and there is usually less static “chrome” to burn-in. Also people tend to trade in their phones more quickly whereas an iPad is often kept for years. There is more time to develop burn-in on an iPad screen.

On the other hand some of the rumors for OLED on iPads talk about a dual-layer OLED that Apple is pursuing with idea that a dual-layer OLED would be more resistant to burn-in and still allow greater brightness.
 
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Maybe the report is mentioning the rumoured 12.9" Air that might be released next year. No way the Pro model will be getting a downgrade.
 
Handheld devices like iPhone take even more abuse and various environments when it comes to peak brightness? And yet OLED on iPhone has been one of the best smartphone display you can get. Bright enough for outdoor sunlight, nice and vivid for dark/indoor usage.

Static images also a norm for iPhone, no apparent burn in I can see. So really, there's no reason to just not bring OLED on next gen iPad Pros. Been holding my 10.5" Pro for a bit too long and I don't want another LCD based iPad.
Oh, I’m not at all opposed to an OLED handheld as long as the burn-in issue is addressed, and it sounds like we are still rocking the same iPad, BTW. A TV presents an entirely different use case than handheld so bringing up an experience with an OLED TV as an example for suitability of OLED to a handheld was not very applicable. Regardless of screen tech, if we get into an extreme reflected light situation with a handheld, we instinctively tilt the screen to reduce the offending reflection and make it usable. A TV has a much larger reflective area and is, for all intents and purposes, static.
 
Good to know. I dislike HDR content.

Since Apple doesn't believe in giving users an option to view HDR content as SDR, watching them with a traditional LCD iDevice/Mac/external monitor is the only way for me to avoid being flashbanged by the extra bright HDR content

If you have a TV set with HDR, and Apple TV 4K plugged in to it, you can actually disable HDR entirely, which force HDR content to SDR.

Set the ATV resolution to 4K SDR and disable "Match Content Dynamic Range"
 
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they will not go to oled from mini-led
So many useless rumors from everywhere
For the ipad pro the next big thing will be micro-led, in 2-3-4 years
Not really useless considering they will release a bare bones apple pencil when people expect the series 3 of it. This just means it will be a cheaper variant maybe.
 
I could see it, if indeed manufacturing problems are making it too expensive. That would also explain why it never expanded to the 11”. It might be a transitory feature like Force Touch.
yeah that makes sense, but damn. have they ever done something like this before?

I don’t recall. this is also the kind of thing that boggles my mind because they of course have so so so much money, but expensive I expensive still lol I suppose lol.
 


Apple's next-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro will revert to an LCD display instead of adopting OLED panel technology, claims a controversial new report coming out of Asia.

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It has been widely reported that Apple's next iPad Pro models will be the first Apple tablets to debut superior OLED panels, with rumors suggesting they will begin shipping around the middle of next year. That's not necessarily the case, according to a confusing new DigiTimes report.

The Taiwan-based outlet now claims Apple will in fact revert to using LCD backlighting for its upcoming 12.9-inch iPad Pro model, putting it on par with the existing 11-inch model.

The current 12.9-inch iPad Pro features a mini-LED display that Apple calls a "Liquid Retina XDR display," while the 11-inch variant uses an inferior LCD-based "Liquid Retina Display."

The report alleges that the high production cost of using mini-LED backlights in the 12.9-inch iPad Pro has been a "hurdle for broader industry adoption," and that Apple's pivot back to conventional backlight technology "could be motivated by the company's focus on scalability and market penetration."

As a result of the component changes, production of the new 12.9-inch iPads could be postponed to "early 2024 at the latest," having originally been slated to start in "early November," adds DigiTimes.

Several things don't add up in this latest report. As covered previously by MacRumors, ‌DigiTimes on Thursday alluded to the same report in its "Before Going to Press" section by claiming that a forthcoming 12.9-inch iPad Air may feature LCD backlighting as opposed to the mini-LED backlighting used in the current 12.9-inch iPad Pro.

However, the fully published report no longer mentions this alleged larger "12.9-inch iPad Air," and simply makes a passing reference to "a new iPad Air" that will also use traditional LCD backlighting like the next iPad Pro.

To add to the confusion, the full article appears to contradict itself by repeating widely reported claims that "Apple might launch a new iPad Pro with AMOLED displays earliest in 2024, sourcing mainly from Samsung Display and LG Display." Whether the OLED model is meant to be in addition to the alleged 12.9-inch iPad Pro with LCD display previously mentioned is simply not specified.

Leaving aside the inconsistencies in the above claims, if the next 12.9-inch iPad Pro reverted from mini-LED to traditional LCD panel technology, it would be considered a major regression for Apple's most premium tablet offering, especially given that OLED display technology is perhaps the most anticipated upgrade coming to the next-generation ‌iPad Pro‌ models.

Given the contradictions in DigiTimes' reporting, not to mention its history for misinterpreting supply chain information, this claim alone should be taken with a large grain of salt until other sources can corroborate it.

Article Link: 2024 iPad Pro to Use LCD Panel Instead of OLED or Mini-LED, Claims Sketchy Report
It’d have a disastrous effects on the Apple products quality and popularity, especially when the iPad Pro is expected to be the future of computing. It’d be in Apple’s best interest to upgrade its hardware with quality bearing components, not downgrade the hardware even with further degradation from the current state. That would be an unacceptable as well as an unpardonable mistake by Apple.

The Apple management is perfectly aware of the innovation technology. Anything lesser and shorter than that is a crime by Apple.

Apple should never substitute the quality for quantity or sales. that why Apple has lower grade iPads for cheap people.

what Apple perhaps doesn’t get it, is the lack of the computing capacity of iPad Pro, since it’s based on the mobile concept rather than the full computing capacity. That’s what halts the volume of sales in iPad Pro models, because its size and hardware capacity do not correspond with each other. Currently the iPad Pro doesn’t do anything more or greater than iPhone does. That’s why many customers prefer the iPhone over the iPad Pro. And choice over the option slows down the iPad Pro sales.

the consumers don’t care about the increased price of the extra upgrade, when it’s justified by a reasonable reason. But degrading the product quality is not going to increase its sales. In fact it will decrease even further.

Apple needs to scrap its laptop computing system in favor of the reinvented iPad Pro. That I will personally welcome as a wise decision by Apple management.
 
Correct about the blackness and contrast. But you know what else does not compare to OLED?
How little light in a room it takes to effectively wash out the OLED image. If your TV is in a dark environment it looks phenomenal. If not, it’s a struggle to watch sometimes. OLED simply does not generate as much light as other technology.
The OLED iPhone goes up to 2000 nits. That's brighter than most consumer TVs.

True they're not dealing with the same burn in risk, but the point is the technology is rapidly catching up. It's a little late in the game to be doubting the product when almost-good-enough has been in the shelves for awhile already.

It's soon my friend, it's very soon. .... I hope.
 
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