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Predict the 2016 Oscars (February 2017)

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The 89th annual Academy Awards (Oscars) broadcast will be Sunday, February 26, 2017, announcing the winners for the best movies of 2016.

This year's host is Jimmy Kimmel, his first time hosting.

The most-nominated film is La La Land, with 14, including 2 for Best Original Song. Five films had 6 or 8 nominations: Arrival, Moonlight, Hacksaw Ridge, Lion, and Manchester by the Sea. Four films had 3 or 4 nominations: Fences, Hell or High Water, Hidden Figures, and Jackie. There are nine films vying for Best Picture.

This thread is for our annual contest. Here are some other movie threads I spotted in the forums in recent months:


MacRumors Oscar Contest

This is the 15th annual MacRumors Oscar Contest. This year there are 122 nominations for 61 movies in 24 categories. The forum contestant with the most correct predictions wins the traditional prize: MacRumors bragging rights. It would be fun to see a new winner this year.

Here's how to vote:
  • Copy the ballot from the next post below.
  • Delete all but one line in each category, leaving 1 choice per category (your prediction).
  • Post it in this thread.
Contest rules:
  • Post between now and 6:00pm Eastern time Sunday.
  • Do not edit your post after voting.
  • One ballot per person.
You need not vote in every category but there's no penalty for guessing. Good luck!

Previous MacRumors "Predict the Oscars" contests:
2015: winners dejo, DoctorQ, and swiftaw (17 correct)
2014: winner Doctor Q (20 correct)
2013: winners dejo and Doctor Q and swiftaw (21 correct)
2012: winner swiftaw (19 correct)
2011: winner swiftaw (19 correct)
2010: winner Doctor Q (18 correct)
2009: winner Doctor Q (16 correct)
2008: winner Doctor Q (20 correct)
2007: winners NEENAHBOY and Doctor Q (13 correct)
2006: winner Doctor Q (15 correct)
2005: winner Doctor Q (18 correct)
2004: winners VincentVega and Pittsax (16 correct)
2003: winners wdlove and Doctor Q (20 correct)
2002: winner Doctor Q (13 correct)​
 
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--- MacRumors Oscar Ballot ---

Best Actor: Viggo Mortensen for Captain Fantastic
Best Actor: Denzel Washington for Fences
Best Actor: Andrew Garfield for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Actor: Ryan Gosling for La La Land
Best Actor: Casey Affleck for Manchester by the Sea

Best Actress: Isabelle Huppert for Elle
Best Actress: Meryl Streep for Florence Foster Jenkins
Best Actress: Natalie Portman for Jackie
Best Actress: Emma Stone for La La Land
Best Actress: Ruth Negga for Loving

Best Adapted Screenplay: Eric Heisserer for Arrival
Best Adapted Screenplay: August Wilson for Fences
Best Adapted Screenplay: Allison Schroeder and Theodore Melfi for Hidden Figures
Best Adapted Screenplay: Luke Davies for Lion
Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins and Tarell Alvin McCraney for Moonlight

Best Animated Feature Film: Travis Knight and Arianne Sutner for Kubo and the Two Strings
Best Animated Feature Film: John Musker, Ron Clements, and Osnat Shurer for Moana
Best Animated Feature Film: Claude Barras and Max Karli for My Life as a Zucchini
Best Animated Feature Film: Michael Dudok de Wit and Toshio Suzuki for The Red Turtle
Best Animated Feature Film: Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Clark Spencer for Zootopia

Best Animated Short Film: Theodore Ushev for Blind Vaysha
Best Animated Short Film: Andrew Coats and Lou Hamou-Lhadj for Borrowed Time
Best Animated Short Film: Robert Valley and Cara Speller for Pear Cider and Cigarettes
Best Animated Short Film: Patrick Osborne for Pearl
Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper

Best Cinematography: Bradford Young for Arrival
Best Cinematography: Linus Sandgren for La La Land
Best Cinematography: Greig Fraser for Lion
Best Cinematography: James Laxton for Moonlight
Best Cinematography: Rodrigo Prieto for Silence

Best Costume Design: Joanna Johnston for Allied
Best Costume Design: Colleen Atwood for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Best Costume Design: Consolata Boyle for Florence Foster Jenkins
Best Costume Design: Madeline Fontaine for Jackie
Best Costume Design: Mary Zophres for La La Land

Best Director: Denis Villeneuve for Arrival
Best Director: Mel Gibson for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Director: Damien Chazelle for La La Land
Best Director: Kenneth Lonergan for Manchester by the Sea
Best Director: Barry Jenkins for Moonlight

Best Documentary Feature: Ava DuVernay, Spencer Averick, and Howard Barish for 13th
Best Documentary Feature: Gianfranco Rosi and Donatella Palermo for Fire at Sea
Best Documentary Feature: Raoul Peck, Rémi Grellety, and Hébert Peck for I Am Not Your Negro
Best Documentary Feature: Roger Ross Williams and Julie Goldman for Life, Animated
Best Documentary Feature: Ezra Edelman and Caroline Waterlow for O.J.: Made in America

Best Documentary Short Subject: Daphne Matziaraki for 4.1 Miles
Best Documentary Short Subject: Dan Krauss for Extremis
Best Documentary Short Subject: Kahane Cooperman and Raphaela Neilhausen for Joe's Violin
Best Documentary Short Subject: Marcel Mettelsiefen and Stephen Ellis for Watani: My Homeland
Best Documentary Short Subject: Orlando von Einsiedel and Joanna Natasegara for The White Helmets

Best Film Editing: Joe Walker for Arrival
Best Film Editing: John Gilbert for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Film Editing: Jake Roberts for Hell or High Water
Best Film Editing: Tom Cross for La La Land
Best Film Editing: Nat Sanders and Joi McMillon for Moonlight

Best Foreign Language Film: Martin Zandvliet for Land of Mine (Denmark)
Best Foreign Language Film: Hannes Holm for A Man Called Ove (Sweden)
Best Foreign Language Film: Asghar Farhadi for The Salesman (Iran)
Best Foreign Language Film: Bentley Dean and Martin Butler for Tanna (Australia)
Best Foreign Language Film: Maren Ade for Toni Erdmann (Germany)

Best Live Action Short Film: Sélim Azzazi for Ennemis intérieurs
Best Live Action Short Film: Timo von Gunten and Giacun Caduff for La femme et le TGV
Best Live Action Short Film: Aske Bang and Kim Magnusson for Silent Nights
Best Live Action Short Film: Kristof Deák and Anna Udvardy for Sing
Best Live Action Short Film: Juanjo Giménez for Timecode

Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Eva Von Bahr and Love Larson for A Man Called Ove
Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Joel Harlow and Richard Alonzo for Star Trek Beyond
Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Alessandro Bertolazzi, Giorgio Gregorini, and Christopher Nelson for Suicide Squad

Best Original Score: Mica Levi for Jackie
Best Original Score: Justin Hurwitz for La La Land
Best Original Score: Dustin O'Halloran and Hauschka for Lion
Best Original Score: Nicholas Britell for Moonlight
Best Original Score: Thomas Newman for Passengers

Best Original Screenplay: Mike Mills for 20th Century Women
Best Original Screenplay: Taylor Sheridan for Hell or High Water
Best Original Screenplay: Damien Chazelle for La La Land
Best Original Screenplay: Yorgos Lanthimos and Efthimis Filippou for The Lobster
Best Original Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan for Manchester by the Sea

Best Original Song: J. Ralph and Sting for "The Empty Chair" in Jim: The James Foley Story
Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "Audition (The Fools Who Dream)" in La La Land
Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "City of Stars" in La La Land
Best Original Song: Lin-Manuel Miranda for "How Far I'll Go" in Moana
Best Original Song: Justin Timberlake, Max Martin, and Karl Johan Schuster for "Can't Stop the Feeling" in Trolls

Best Picture: Shawn Levy, Dan Levine, Aaron Ryder, and David Linde for Arrival
Best Picture: Scott Rudin, Denzel Washington, and Todd Black for Fences
Best Picture: Bill Mechanic and David Permut for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Picture: Carla Hacken and Julie Yorn for Hell or High Water
Best Picture: Donna Gigliotti, Peter Chernin, Jenno Topping, Pharrell Williams, and Theodore Melfi for Hidden Figures
Best Picture: Fred Berger, Jordan Horowitz, and Marc Platt for La La Land
Best Picture: Emile Sherman, Iain Canning, and Angie Fielder for Lion
Best Picture: Matt Damon, Kimberly Steward, Chris Moore, Lauren Beck, and Kevin J. Walsh for Manchester by the Sea
Best Picture: Adele Romanski, Dede Gardner, and Jeremy Kleiner for Moonlight

Best Production Design: Patrice Vermette and Paul Hotte for Arrival
Best Production Design: Stuart Craig and Anna Pinnock for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Best Production Design: Jess Gonchor and Nancy Haigh for Hail, Caesar!
Best Production Design: David Wasco and Sandy Reynolds-Wasco for La La Land
Best Production Design: Guy Hendrix Dyas and Gene Serdena for Passengers

Best Sound Editing: Sylvain Bellemare for Arrival
Best Sound Editing: Wylie Stateman and Renée Tondelli for Deepwater Horizon
Best Sound Editing: Robert Mackenzie and Andy Wright for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Sound Editing: Ai-Ling Lee and Mildred Iatrou Morgan for La La Land
Best Sound Editing: Alan Robert Murray and Bub Asman for Sully

Best Sound Mixing: Greg P. Russell, Gary Summers, Jeffrey J. Haboush, and Mac Ruth for 13 Hours
Best Sound Mixing: Bernard Gariépy Strobl and Claude La Haye for Arrival
Best Sound Mixing: Kevin O'Connell, Andy Wright, Robert Mackenzie, and Peter Grace for Hacksaw Ridge
Best Sound Mixing: Andy Nelson, Ai-Ling Lee, and Steve A. Morrow for La La Land
Best Sound Mixing: David Parker, Christopher Scarabosio, and Stuart Wilson for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Best Supporting Actor: Jeff Bridges for Hell or High Water
Best Supporting Actor: Dev Patel for Lion
Best Supporting Actor: Lucas Hedges for Manchester by the Sea
Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali for Moonlight
Best Supporting Actor: Michael Shannon for Nocturnal Animals

Best Supporting Actress: Viola Davis for Fences
Best Supporting Actress: Octavia Spencer for Hidden Figures
Best Supporting Actress: Nicole Kidman for Lion
Best Supporting Actress: Michelle Williams for Manchester by the Sea
Best Supporting Actress: Naomie Harris for Moonlight

Best Visual Effects: Craig Hammack, Jason Snell, Jason Billington, and Burt Dalton for Deepwater Horizon
Best Visual Effects: Stephane Ceretti, Richard Bluff, Vincent Cirelli, and Paul Corbould for Doctor Strange
Best Visual Effects: Robert Legato, Adam Valdez, Andrew R. Jones, amd Dan Lemmon for The Jungle Book
Best Visual Effects: Steve Emerson, Oliver Jones, Brian McLean, and Brad Schiff for Kubo and the Two Strings
Best Visual Effects: John Knoll, Mohen Leo, Hal Hickel, and Neil Corbould for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
 
This is going to be fun. I have seen exactly two nominated films - both animated! I wouldn't suggest copying my ballot. So here it goes...

--- MacRumors Oscar Ballot ---

Best Actor: Ryan Gosling for La La Land

Best Actress: Meryl Streep for Florence Foster Jenkins

Best Adapted Screenplay: Allison Schroeder and Theodore Melfi for Hidden Figures

Best Animated Feature Film: Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Clark Spencer for Zootopia

Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper

Best Cinematography: Bradford Young for Arrival

Best Costume Design: Madeline Fontaine for Jackie

Best Director: Denis Villeneuve for Arrival

Best Documentary Feature: Ezra Edelman and Caroline Waterlow for O.J.: Made in America

Best Documentary Short Subject: Kahane Cooperman and Raphaela Neilhausen for Joe's Violin

Best Film Editing: John Gilbert for Hacksaw Ridge

Best Foreign Language Film: Martin Zandvliet for Land of Mine (Denmark)

Best Live Action Short Film: Kristof Deák and Anna Udvardy for Sing

Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Alessandro Bertolazzi, Giorgio Gregorini, and Christopher Nelson for Suicide Squad

Best Original Score: Justin Hurwitz for La La Land

Best Original Screenplay: Yorgos Lanthimos and Efthimis Filippou for The Lobster

Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "City of Stars" in La La Land

Best Picture: Matt Damon, Kimberly Steward, Chris Moore, Lauren Beck, and Kevin J. Walsh for Manchester by the Sea

Best Production Design: Stuart Craig and Anna Pinnock for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Best Sound Editing: Robert Mackenzie and Andy Wright for Hacksaw Ridge

Best Sound Mixing: David Parker, Christopher Scarabosio, and Stuart Wilson for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Best Supporting Actor: Lucas Hedges for Manchester by the Sea

Best Supporting Actress: Octavia Spencer for Hidden Figures

Best Visual Effects: Stephane Ceretti, Richard Bluff, Vincent Cirelli, and Paul Corbould for Doctor Strange
 
I find myself at an extreme disadvantage this year as I've seen a grand total of one of these movies- The Arrival and I would not choose that for any awards, maybe Most Thought Provoking if that was an award. :(

Chances are good I'll be watching La La Land and Manchester after the fact.
 
Here we go then:

Best Actor: Denzel Washington for Fences

Best Actress: Emma Stone for La La Land

Best Adapted Screenplay: August Wilson for Fences

Best Animated Feature Film: Travis Knight and Arianne Sutner for Kubo and the Two Strings

Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper

Best Cinematography: Greig Fraser for Lion

Best Costume Design: Colleen Atwood for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Best Director: Damien Chazelle for La La Land

Best Documentary Feature: Raoul Peck, Rémi Grellety, and Hébert Peck for I Am Not Your Negro

Best Documentary Short Subject: Marcel Mettelsiefen and Stephen Ellis for Watani: My Homeland

Best Film Editing: Tom Cross for La La Land

Best Foreign Language Film: Martin Zandvliet for Land of Mine (Denmark)

Best Live Action Short Film: Kristof Deák and Anna Udvardy for Sing

Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Eva Von Bahr and Love Larson for A Man Called Ove

Best Original Score: Dustin O'Halloran and Hauschka for Lion

Best Original Screenplay: Damien Chazelle for La La Land

Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "Audition (The Fools Who Dream)" in La La Land

Best Picture: Fred Berger, Jordan Horowitz, and Marc Platt for La La Land

Best Production Design: Patrice Vermette and Paul Hotte for Arrival

Best Sound Editing: Robert Mackenzie and Andy Wright for Hacksaw Ridge

Best Sound Mixing: Bernard Gariépy Strobl and Claude La Haye for Arrival

Best Supporting Actor: Dev Patel for Lion

Best Supporting Actress: Viola Davis for Fences

Best Visual Effects: Stephane Ceretti, Richard Bluff, Vincent Cirelli, and Paul Corbould for Doctor Strange
 
I've been waffling about a couple of categories, but I have to make up my mind, don't I?

I've done my Oscar-research homework, as I always do. I've seen about half of the nominated movies, covering 60% of the nominations, and I've seen movies in every category. In fact, I managed to squeeze in watching one more nominated movie today. I read reviews, pay attention to the guild awards, listen to Hollywood-related interviews, collect tips from self-appointed experts, and factor in Mrs. Q's opinions, since she has sometimes made better predictions than I have.

For the record, the nominated movies that I personally enjoyed most this year were Captain Fantastic, Life Animated, Lion, Pearl, and Timecode. I guess I wasn't in the mood for the more serious films, plus I tend to like quirky movies.

Here are my predictions, with my [reasoning in square brackets.]


Best Actor: Casey Affleck for Manchester by the Sea
[My close second is Denzel Washington, who has been actively campaigning for this award, while Casey Affleck has not. Also, most Academy voters are actors, so Denzel Washington's win of the Screen Actors Guild award may be a harbinger. However, Casey Affleck plays a much more sympathetic character and it was a great performance. Also, he won the Golden Globe and the BAFTA award.]​

Best Actress: Emma Stone for La La Land
[She won the other awards this year, and she's been campaigning for this award. She's not known as a singer/dancer so she did a great job in new territory.]​

Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins and Tarell Alvin McCraney for Moonlight
[Science fiction scripts are taken less seriously, so Moonlight beats Arrival.]​

Best Animated Feature Film: Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Clark Spencer for Zootopia
[Annie Award winner.]​

Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper
[It's hard to beat Pixar, especially with their mini-heroic tale of a cute animal. Pearl was actually a more clever film creation, but not as much of a crowd-pleaser. Pear Cider and Cigarettes was just plain weird; I think it was based on a tough real-life experience, but why did I have to live it too?]​

Best Cinematography: Linus Sandgren for La La Land
[BAFTA win. Note: Mrs. Q takes Lion in this category.]​

Best Costume Design: Mary Zophres for La La Land
[I've changed my mind back and forth several times, between La La Land and Jackie. Jackie is a period piece, which is a type that often wins in this category, and it also won the BAFTA. But I'm going with La La Land, both for its coattails from winning in other categories and because it won the Costume Designer Guild award.]​

Best Director: Damien Chazelle for La La Land
[Swept other awards.]​

Best Documentary Feature: Ezra Edelman and Caroline Waterlow for O.J.: Made in America
[O.J. was really a TV show that qualified by being shown in theaters too. The movie "13th" taught me more about racial issues.]​

Best Documentary Short Subject: Orlando von Einsiedel and Joanna Natasegara for The White Helmets
[Given the political climate, I think The White Helmet, which is about heroes in Syria, will edge out the tearjerker Extremis, which is about end-of-life decisions. Joe's Violin is campaigning for this award, and it's a Holocaust story, but that's not what is on people's minds at the moment. Watani: My Homeland, is the 3-year story of one refugee family, but White Helmet was a more surprising story.]​

Best Film Editing: Tom Cross for La La Land
[I think they too often give the Film Editing award to films with lots of fast cuts. That might fit Hacksaw Ridge, but I think La La Land deserves it for more finely crafted editing.]​

Best Foreign Language Film: Asghar Farhadi for The Salesman (Iran)
[A Man Called Ove was fun, because of its grumpy anti-hero, but the political climate favors votes for this film.]​

Best Live Action Short Film: Sélim Azzazi for Ennemis intérieurs
[Did I mention the political climate? Here's another film that it favors. Yes, it makes a point, but I found it boring. The other shorts were more interesting to watch, especially the sweet-revenge film "Sing" and the quirky "Timecode".]​

Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Joel Harlow and Richard Alonzo for Star Trek Beyond
[Suicide Squad had more original makeup, but the Trek franchise is too popular and mainstream to be ignored. And it had funny-looking people too.]​

Best Original Score: Justin Hurwitz for La La Land
[It's a musical!]​

Best Original Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan for Manchester by the Sea
[Kenneth Lonergan is a screenplay star these days. And I'm not picking La La Land because musicals don't win in this category.]​

Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "City of Stars" in La La Land
[There's a risk that the two songs from La La Land could split the vote, but I think this one was the best. And "Audition" doesn't count because it clearly stole its melody from "Rainbow Connection" by Kermit the Frog!]​

Best Picture: Fred Berger, Jordan Horowitz, and Marc Platt for La La Land
[This year's Titanic.]​

Best Production Design: David Wasco and Sandy Reynolds-Wasco for La La Land
[The sets weren't realistic, but they were artificially exactly as intended.]​

Best Sound Editing: Robert Mackenzie and Andy Wright for Hacksaw Ridge
[Movies with loud explosions and war themes do well in this category.]​

Best Sound Mixing: Andy Nelson, Ai-Ling Lee, and Steve A. Morrow for La La Land
[The musical tops all.]​

Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali for Moonlight
[Dev Patel's performance was good in a wonderful story from real life, but Mahershala Ali's powerful role got much more exposure and attention.]​

Best Supporting Actress: Viola Davis for Fences
[Swept other awards.]​

Best Visual Effects: Robert Legato, Adam Valdez, Andrew R. Jones, amd Dan Lemmon for The Jungle Book
[This film had the only effects that made me say "Wow, how did they do that?" The large animals really appeared to have mass, something that's often missing in CG effects, and their movements were perfect.]​
 
The Best Actor, Best Actress, and Best Director nominees get swag bags valued at about $25,000. They have to pay tax on them.

I didn't spot a list of what the men get, but the women get this stuff:
  • Necklaces, bracelets, rings, earrings
  • Designer clothes, handbags, eyeglasses, sunglasses
  • Products for skin care, lip care, hair care, foot care
  • Apples, pecans, macaroons, energy drinks, olive oil, maple syrup, chocolates
  • Swank hotel stays in Hawaii, California, New York, and Sorrento Italy
  • Art
  • Massage mats, spa stays, sweat patches, pelvic floor exercise trackers, personal training sessions, vaporizers, CPR kits
  • Nesting bowls, trays, and spreading knives
  • Pillows
  • Party games
  • Crime novels
  • Crayola crayons, children's books
  • A1-Array 3D cameras
In other words, it's the same stuff most of us buy when we're out shopping each week.
 
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I haven't seen most of the movies, but I will be shocked if La La Land does not win best cinematography. I found the long shots and the color usage to be really mind-blowing.
 
--- MacRumors Oscar Ballot ---

Best Actor: Denzel Washington for Fences

Best Actress: Emma Stone for La La Land

Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins and Tarell Alvin McCraney for Moonlight

Best Animated Feature Film: Byron Howard, Rich Moore, Clark Spencer for Zootopia

Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper

Best Cinematography: Linus Sandgren for La La Land

Best Costume Design: Colleen Atwood for Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

Best Director: Damien Chazelle for La La Land

Best Documentary Feature: Ezra Edelman and Caroline Waterlow for O.J.: Made in America

Best Documentary Short Subject: Orlando von Einsiedel and Joanna Natasegara for The White Helmets

Best Film Editing: Tom Cross for La La Land

Best Foreign Language Film: Asghar Farhadi for The Salesman (Iran)

Best Live Action Short Film: Kristof Deák and Anna Udvardy for Sing

Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Joel Harlow and Richard Alonzo for Star Trek Beyond

Best Original Score: Justin Hurwitz for La La Land

Best Original Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan for Manchester by the Sea

Best Original Song: Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, and Justin Paul for "City of Stars" in La La Land

Best Picture: Fred Berger, Jordan Horowitz, and Marc Platt for La La Land

Best Production Design: David Wasco and Sandy Reynolds-Wasco for La La Land

Best Sound Editing: Ai-Ling Lee and Mildred Iatrou Morgan for La La Land

Best Sound Mixing: Andy Nelson, Ai-Ling Lee, and Steve A. Morrow for La La Land

Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali for Moonlight

Best Supporting Actress: Viola Davis for Fences

Best Visual Effects: Robert Legato, Adam Valdez, Andrew R. Jones, amd Dan Lemmon for The Jungle Book
 
So far everyone has voted for

Best Animated Short Film: Alan Barillaro and Marc Sondheimer for Piper​

In every other category we have a mixture of predictions, and that makes it fun.
 
Looks like a heap of garbage that was nominated. Can't say I'll waste my time seeing any of it.
 
Results

Thanks to our contestants and congratulations to winner swiftaw, who led the contest from the start to the end of the Oscar ceremony.

Good job to everyone associated with the awards -- except for the person who gave Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway the envelope with the wrong Oscar card to read as Best Picture winner! That's the strangest-ever finish to an Oscar broadcast.

MacRumors 2016 Oscar contest results
1. 18 correct. swiftaw
2. 17 correct. Doctor Q
3. 8 correct. ejb190
4. 6 correct. stridemat​

Other results:
  • Only ejb190 correctly predicted Hacksaw Ridge for Best Film Editing and Suicide Squad for Best Makeup and Hairstyling.
  • Only Doctor Q correctly predicted Casey Affleck for Best Actor and Ennemis interieurs for Best Live Action Short Film.
  • We all correctly predicted Piper for Best Animated Short Film.
  • None of us predicted Moonlight for Best Picture or Arrival for Best Sound Editing or Hacksaw Ridge for Best Sound Mixing.
  • (For the record, Mrs. Q got 15 correct.)
Movies that won more than one Oscar:
  • 6 Oscars out of 14 nominations: La La Land
  • 3 Oscars out of 8 nominations: Moonlight -- including Best Picture
  • 2 Oscars out of 6 nominations: Hacksaw Ridge
  • 2 Oscars out of 6 nominations: Manchester by the Sea
Movies with multiple nominations and 1 win:
  • Arrival (8 nominations)
  • Fences (4 nominations)
  • Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2 nominations)
Movies with multiple nominations and no wins:
  • Lion (6 nominations)
  • Hell or High Water (4 nominations)
  • Hidden Figures (3 nominations)
  • Jackie (3 nominations)
  • Deepwater Horizon (2 nominations)
  • Florence Foster Jenkins (2 nominations)
  • Kubo and the Two Strings (2 nominations)
  • A Man Called Ove (2 nominations)
  • Moana (2 nominations)
  • Passengers (2 nominations)
  • Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2 nominations)
 
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This is the question, if the results were known in advance (they were :)), how could there be an envelope with the wrong best picture winner? I presume there is just more than a name in the envelope, but a name and a category.

The answer is there are duplicate envelopes and two mistakes. Although he was announcing Best Picture, Warren Beatty was handed the duplicate envelope for Best Actress Emma Stone, La La Land, when he opened it he was uncertain, handing the envelope to Fay Dunaway who was going to make it work, announcing La La Land, when the Best Picture was really Moonlighting. (LINK) :oops:

Then they had to come out and say oops. :D
 
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Hypothetical question: It's said that only Martha Ruiz and Brian Cullinan of PriceWaterhouseCoopers knew the winners. What if they had stayed hidden in the wings, instead of dashing out on stage to correct the mistake? Could they have kept the mistake secret, and nobody would ever know that the wrong film had received the Best Picture award?

In another Oscar "incident" a few days ago, the Sound Mixing nomination of Greg P. Russell for "13 Hours" was rescinded because he engaged in telephone lobbying. This was his 17th nomination without a win, so perhaps he was desperate to boost his chances. The film didn't win anyway. See Academy announcement.
 
Doctor Q said:
Hypothetical question: It's said that only Martha Ruiz and Brian Cullinan of PriceWaterhouseCoopers knew the winners. What if they had stayed hidden in the wings, instead of dashing out on stage to correct the mistake? Could they have kept the mistake secret, and nobody would ever know that the wrong film had received the Best Picture award?

In another Oscar "incident" a few days ago, the Sound Mixing nomination of Greg P. Russell for "13 Hours" was rescinded because he engaged in telephone lobbying. This was his 17th nomination without a win, so perhaps he was desperate to boost his chances. The film didn't win anyway. See Academy announcement.
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The cameras had already picked up the wrong envelope in Warren's hand and they always have the card to the winner.
 
@Huntn On the live broadcast, as the correction was being made, the correct card was shown by one of the folks from the "La La Land" group. On that card, at the very bottom, were the words "best picture". How both Warren and Faye could miss that and ad-lib the announcement because they just wanted to soldier on is almost disgraceful. I don't care how respected they are in the industry, they should have asked for help if something didn't look right.

What will come of this? Next year I bet the presenters will be told that if there is ANY doubt to turn around and get someone to confirm.

I commend the La La Land folks for how they handled it. They wanted to be sure the right folks got the statues (though it's a "do unto others..." moment I imagine) and wanted to be sure the public was clear that Moonlight WAS the correct winner.

Side note - I bet the engravers backstage were messing their shorts...
 
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@Huntn On the live broadcast, as the correction was being made, the correct card was shown by one of the folks from the "La La Land" group. On that card, at the very bottom, were the words "best picture". How both Warren and Faye could miss that and ad-lib the announcement because they just wanted to soldier on is almost disgraceful. I don't care how respected they are in the industry, they should have asked for help if something didn't look right.

What will come of this? Next year I bet the presenters will be told that if there is ANY doubt to turn around and get someone to confirm.

I commend the La La Land folks for how they handled it. They wanted to be sure the right folks got the statues (though it's a "do unto others..." moment I imagine) and wanted to be sure the public was clear that Moonlight WAS the correct winner.

Side note - I bet the engravers backstage were messing their shorts...
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Hopefully they had some spares backstage so they could make the changes.
 
hallux said:
@Huntn On the live broadcast, as the correction was being made, the correct card was shown by one of the folks from the "La La Land" group. On that card, at the very bottom, were the words "best picture". How both Warren and Faye could miss that and ad-lib the announcement because they just wanted to soldier on is almost disgraceful. I don't care how respected they are in the industry, they should have asked for help if something didn't look right.

What will come of this? Next year I bet the presenters will be told that if there is ANY doubt to turn around and get someone to confirm.

I commend the La La Land folks for how they handled it. They wanted to be sure the right folks got the statues (though it's a "do unto others..." moment I imagine) and wanted to be sure the public was clear that Moonlight WAS the correct winner.

Side note - I bet the engravers backstage were messing their shorts...
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Sounds like it was all just an innocent human mistake. A mistake nonetheless, with some repercussions and surely discussions of how to improve things to avoid something like this in the future, but still a fairly simple and innocent human one.
 
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C DM said:
Sounds like it was all just an innocent human mistake. A mistake nonetheless, with some repercussions and surely discussions of how to improve things to avoid something like this in the future, but still a fairly simple and innocent human one.
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The academy is "replacing the mistakes" and has canned the 2 accountants.
 
Too bad the switched-card mistake wasn't made in 2005 instead of 2017. The 2005 Oscars (for movies from 2004) were the only ones in this century where the same film won Best Picture and Best Actress.

Going back in time, the Best Picture and Best Actress winners have been for the same movie only 11 out of 89 times, and never twice in a row:
  • 2004: Million Dollar Baby, Hilary Swank
  • 1998: Shakespeare in Love, Gwyneth Paltrow
  • 1991: The Silence of the Lambs, Jodie Foster
  • 1989: Driving Miss Daisy, Jessica Tandy
  • 1983: Terms of Endearment, Shirley MacLaine
  • 1977: Annie Hall, Diane Keaton
  • 1975: One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, Louise Fletcher
  • 1942: Mrs. Miniver, Greer Garson
  • 1939: Gone with the Wind, Vivien Leigh
  • 1936: The Great Ziegfeld, Luise Rainer
  • 1934: It Happened One Night, Claudette Colbert
In contrast, I count 27 times that Best Picture and Best Actor were the same movie. Sounds like the Academy voters have some 'splainin' to do!
 
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Too bad the switched-card mistake wasn't made in 2005 instead of 2017. The 2005 Oscars (for movies from 2004) were the only ones in this century where the same film won Best Picture and Best Actress.

Going back in time, the Best Picture and Best Actress winners have been for the same movie only 11 out of 89 times, and never twice in a row:
  • 2004: Million Dollar Baby, Hilary Swank
  • 1998: Shakespeare in Love, Gwyneth Paltrow
  • 1991: The Silence of the Lambs, Jodie Foster
  • 1989: Driving Miss Daisy, Jessica Tandy
  • 1983: Terms of Endearment, Shirley MacLaine
  • 1977: Annie Hall, Diane Keaton
  • 1975: One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, Louise Fletcher
  • 1942: Mrs. Miniver, Greer Garson
  • 1939: Gone with the Wind, Vivien Leigh
  • 1936: The Great Ziegfeld, Luise Rainer
  • 1934: It Happened One Night, Claudette Colbert
In contrast, I count 27 times that Best Picture and Best Actor were the same movie. Sounds like the Academy voters have some 'splainin' to do!
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Interesting. I haven't really looked into it, but from what I recall I believe for the most part it's often the director and/or screenplay that usually match up to the best picture (although I guess even that's not necessarily always the case).
 
C DM said:
Honestly, one of the fairly big issues is even simpler than innocent human error: https://medium.freecodecamp.com/why-typography-matters-especially-at-the-oscars-f7b00e202f22
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According to this article, stage manager Gary Natoli said something similar about the typography:

"There was the new design of the envelope, which we had complained about to the Academy a week earlier. The stage crew's complaints had led to a change in the inserts that went inside the envelopes, which originally had print that was far too small. But they couldn't do anything about the envelopes themselves, on which the name of the category was not nearly as legible as it had been in previous years. I had to look closely to see the category names. All they were thinking about was design, not function."​
 
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