205 gig (!!) of 'hidden space' on 2012 iMac?

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  1. H.Finch macrumors regular

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    Hi all,

    Quick question: I checked my disc space usage this morning and came to the stunning conclusion that my iMac (late 2012, 1 tb fusion drive) has 205 gigs of ‘hidden space’ (as DaisyDisk calls it).

    Since I got this iMac I put mostly all of my files on an external drive, so as to keep the Fusion drive usage below 128 gigs and my full internal storage would operate on SSD speed.
    Now the system started to feel slow, which is why I checked…

    Does anyone know how to fix this? Could it be the large Photoshop documents I work with, being cached or something? (3,5 gigs a piece on average). I could do a reboot, but last time I did that the startup was so slow I was actually afraid it wouldn’t start at all. So I’m hesitant to reboot. Especially during a workweek.
    I’m planning to get a new Mac between next week and the end of the year, so I don’t wanna do anything too crazy to the system these last couple of months.

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  2. maflynn Moderator

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    Download and use OmniDiskSweeper. It will provide a sorted list of what's consuming your space.
     
  3. Trebuin macrumors 65816

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    You can upgrade to the non-apple store version & it will display what that is. It should be system directory files...though I haven't seen it near that large. Think of the var folder...that should be what it is.
     
  4. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    I though this was abnormal :S Well thanks for the tips guy! Ill get on this...
     
  5. Pakaku macrumors 68000

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  6. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    I really hope not... I hope this iMac will keep running for a few more months... But I dont think 200 gigs of space being taken up means the hdd is dying...
     
  7. Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    Best free tool for determining just what is eating up your space:
    Diskwave:
    https://diskwave.barthe.ph

    Just download and launch it.
    You'll see what to do next.

    TIP: Go to preferences and set it so that normally-invisible files are made VISIBLE.
    Helps a lot.
     
  8. maflynn Moderator

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    Check out the SMART report in the Disk Utility, that may report some issues.
     
  9. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the tips guys, here's the weird thing... I rebooted... and now the used space is back to 160 gigs instead of the previous 374... The entire 205 of 'unused, but used space' is gone... I have no clue as to what happend... But I'm happy it seems fixed now...
     
  10. maflynn Moderator

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    If you had not rebooted the machine in a while its quite possible that it was just swap space that disappears on reboot.
     
  11. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    I though it might... but then again... a swap space of 200+ gigs!?... that seems really extreme doesn't it? I though OSX was really efficient with memory usage and the likes...
     
  12. nambuccaheadsau macrumors 6502a

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    By chance do you use Time Machine? If not connected to the external in a while it just builds up.
     
  13. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    No, never used it... But I'm happy all seems fixed now. I guess my iMac will now keep chugging on until my next Mac comes. Now all I want is Apple to release a standalone display again and make the Macbook Pro keybord better and I'll be the happiest man on earth.
     
  14. Lucas Godfrey macrumors 6502

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    You did say you don't restart the machine..
     
  15. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    Correct, but I know many, many people who restart only a few times a year... Even John Gruber does this. So I thought Mac's would handle that pretty well...
     
  16. Fishrrman, Jun 5, 2017
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    Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    My opinion only, but…

    … unless you have some work going that you need to carry over from night till the next day, the best way to keep ANY Mac running smoothly is to shut down each night and reboot each morning. It just "cleans things out" that would otherwise accumulate over time. Time and time again, the "strange problems" a Mac user may be experiencing will disappear after a reboot (or even a "log out and log in".

    Nothing like a "fresh start"...
     
  17. H.Finch thread starter macrumors regular

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    I think you have a point there... Although I did hear somewhere that rebooting, and starting your Mac up from zero to 7200 rpm lets say (fans, or disc etc), every day... has more tear on your Mac hardware… And even that it costs more power to reboot every day…
     
  18. Oleg K. macrumors newbie

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    Usually it helps to simply run the system Disk Utility's "First Aid". Sometimes it helps to run it in recovery mode (hold Cmd+R upon reboot), because sometimes it may not be able to fix errors while the disk is mounted. Finally, if that didn't help, you can try rebuilding the HFS catalog file using the fsck_hfs utility, but be sure to backup first because it may sometimes fail. See for more detail: https://daisydiskapp.com/manual/4/en/Topics/HiddenSpace.html
     

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