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I can still get Blurays cheaper than iTunes. So, the only benefit is the convenience.

And convenience is what it's all about. Having bookcases filled with DVDs and Blurays is a real pain in the arsh, and they do you no good on road trips with the kids.
 
And convenience is what it's all about. Having bookcases filled with DVDs and Blurays is a real pain in the arsh, and they do you no good on road trips with the kids.

True. Last DVD that I bought was in 2006. Since iTunes started offering movies, I only purchase movies through iTunes. Now that they are in HD, that is all I buy. I have purchased so many HD movie for $9.99 over the past few months, don't think BR cost less than that.
 
For one thing it allows you to download any of your movies/tv shows to any of your devices for convenience. And if you own an Apple TV 2/3, you can stream and buy those movies directly on it without having to download it to your computer first. They are then stored in your purchased tab on Apple TV, and can be streamed directly from there.

Ok, so is the fact that movie studios need to "approve" and probably get royalties from iTunes in the Cloud because you can stream those movies on an Apple TV?

Because otherwise legally I don't see why allowing you to re-download digital content your already paid for would require movie studios to make money again from you or Apple. I just assumed it was Apple being cheap on bandwidth.
 
Ok, so is the fact that movie studios need to "approve" and probably get royalties from iTunes in the Cloud because you can stream those movies on an Apple TV?

Because otherwise legally I don't see why allowing you to re-download digital content your already paid for would require movie studios to make money again from you or Apple. I just assumed it was Apple being cheap on bandwidth.

No, it was existing deals with HBO that were holding up some movies from being in iCloud. HBO agreed to loosen the restrictions.
 
I have never bought movies or TV shows from iTunes, but I might start..

How do iTunes compare with DVDs? I assume they have all the same features as the DVD, with features, director's commentaries, subtitles, languages etc?
 
I know. I compare one movie I can watch as often as I want for $9.99 to a service where I can watch - realistically speaking - hundrets for the same price. I know I don't have the same right on the movie if I watch it on Netflix since I didn't purchase it. But, hey, how often will one watch it? My DVD collection is collecting dust and in most cases, that is how it is. I understand that you can rent it for less, but then, the service is not much different from Netflix anymore. Comparing Bang for the Buck, $9.99 is too high for a single piece of media. I think $4.99 for a new one and $3.99 for an older movie is fair. Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

Good luck. I can't seem to find more than ten movies throughout Netflix that I'd want to stream. TV shows fair better, but there are still several that I'd like to have that are not available.

$4.99 for a new movie purchase is dreaming, bordering on unreasonable. You'd never find a deal half that good with physical media, and pay twice that in a theater.
 
How much longer till there is no HD premium pricing? I feel at this point it's kind of ridiculous for a digital download. Movies should be one standard cost ($10) with old or discounted movies available ($5) and the user should be given the option each DL to choose SD, 720, or 1080 depending on what they want/need at the moment. And all movies purchased through iTunes or with digital copy should be able to be watched on any devices through download or streaming.

The ideal vision.
 
But what does "movies being in iCloud" even mean? Is it just that they're available to stream from an Apple TV?

That and redownload to any device that accesses your account. Frankly, the ability to stream to my Apple TV is a killer deal for me. I don't have to store them on a shelf or a hard drive.
 
That and redownload to any device that accesses your account. Frankly, the ability to stream to my Apple TV is a killer deal for me. I don't have to store them on a shelf or a hard drive.

Don't get too cozy with that. Seems like most ISP's are implementing or considering implementing bandwidth caps these days. :(
 
$4.99 for a new movie purchase is dreaming, bordering on unreasonable. You'd never find a deal half that good with physical media, and pay twice that in a theater.

Yea, except that WalMart has $5 movies which were blockbusters and also $7.50 movies which are newer. So, you get them under that price and you also have to see that these movies cost more in production because they are on a DVD (not even mentioning transportation, etc). Also, the $9.99 are not the ones in the movie theater at the same time. First, movies are in the big theaters, then in the 2nd tier smaller theaters and then they come to DVD/Blueray prime market and then they are available for streaming and online purchases. Sure, Netflix does usually not have them as long as they are still primary rentals.
 
That and redownload to any device that accesses your account. Frankly, the ability to stream to my Apple TV is a killer deal for me. I don't have to store them on a shelf or a hard drive.

I'm still new to Apple and all of this, but I agree with this. I have over 100 DVDs just sitting on a shelf, they get watched...never. Would be awesome if they could be uploaded to the cloud and store them there. I'm sure it'd cost way too much right now, though.
 
Good news! Still, the prices are way too high. About $10 for a movie? That is $2 more than one month of Netflix.

THIS. Big Time. $10 bucks for a digital file is mental, but boy do they have it figured out. Better than printing money.
 
I am looking forward to being able to upgrade my SD movies to HD + iTunes Extras

Oh, and I see I was beaten to iTunes Match for Movies.

Ah but I can dream.

Both of these so much.

I'd love to be able to upgrade to HD.

But, above all else, I just want Warner Brothers to get their heads out of their you-know-what and actually make Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 1 available digitally once again.

It irks me that I have every other movie except for that in my iTunes. :(

I have never bought movies or TV shows from iTunes, but I might start..

How do iTunes compare with DVDs? I assume they have all the same features as the DVD, with features, director's commentaries, subtitles, languages etc?

Some of the movies are labelled "iTunes Extras", which have extra content - most of it is detailed on the movie page. For example, Twilight has commentaries but not all the movies do.

I think that nearly all iTunes movies have subtitles now, though - at least the more recent ones.
 
Yea, except that WalMart has $5 movies which were blockbusters and also $7.50 movies which are newer. So, you get them under that price and you also have to see that these movies cost more in production because they are on a DVD (not even mentioning transportation, etc). Also, the $9.99 are not the ones in the movie theater at the same time. First, movies are in the big theaters, then in the 2nd tier smaller theaters and then they come to DVD/Blueray prime market and then they are available for streaming and online purchases. Sure, Netflix does usually not have them as long as they are still primary rentals.

Netflix has ironman 2 and Thor for streaming, but not the first Ironman or Captain America. They have a crap selection, period.

Not sure what youre trying to say about theater prices versus itunes prices. Of course they're not In the theater at the same time as being on iTunes. But you'd pay $10 in the theater to see it once. Expecting it to release for multi view ownership for less than that is unrealistic.

The only movies I've seen for $5 on disc are priced that way because they're either older movies, bad movies, or surplus copies they can't unload any other way.
 
I'm not sure I understand this whole iTunes in the Cloud thing.

What exactly is technically/legally different than before?

From what I understand, it just allows you to re-download the digital content you previously bought if you lose the files or don't want to manually sync them between your different devices.

Basically, it's just Apple being more generous with their bandwidth, but why does it deserve the "Cloud" buzzword and is treated like it's new feature?

If it allowed streaming and storage for personal files (like iTunes match) I could understand, but as it is they just let you re-download the content you already paid for, like many digital stores have allowed in the past without sticking the "Cloud" name next to it.

Please tell me if there's something I'm missing here.

What you are missing is copyright law. One of the exclusive rights of copyright holders is the right to distribute. As such, they can and do determine if and under what circumstance Apple (or any other entity) can distribute a film. Obviously, for Apple to sell you a movie or stream it to your computer, they have it stored on Apple's servers (for which they have to pay), then there is another contract for streaming, another for purchase and store at home, and another for purchase and store on the server.

Obviously, Apple will not be storing another copy on their server just for you -- it will be a pointer to the existing single copy Apple has. However, there must a contract clause somewhere also, that guarantees that Apple's lone copy will always remain on the server, else the purchaser will not be able to access their "copy".

Of course, Apple really has multiple copies of the film, and has to contract distributed access via multiple servers, and rights to make backups (which is again multiple copies on "external" media lodged off-site.

Anyway you look at it, copyright law restrictions do make it a "new" feature.
 
Is this only in the USA and not U.K.
As tv program's show up on my apple tv that I have bought but not movies ?

:confused::confused::confused:
 
I don't see the studios allowing an iTunes Match for Movies for a loooooong time. First off, they wouldn't see enough profit from allowing people to put their previous purchases on all their other devices. Even if Apple charged 2x the cost of iTunes Match for music for it that's still just a hair more than two HD movie purchases to make up the difference. They're going to focus on getting people to re-buy what they've already bought. Furthermore, there would need to be some kind of a standard digital marker placed in all DVD rentals, which seems like it'd be a massive effort, that iTunes would have to be trained to reject, or else people could just grab DVD from Netflix and add it to his/her account.

As the movie studios focus on preserving their dying business models, I just don't see them getting on board with that.

even for digital copies, you have to purchase or redeem a code, via itunes, to get access to icloud.
just having a dvd rip wouldnt work.

it would be LIKE the music itunes match, but make it to you have to purchase thru itunes.

That and redownload to any device that accesses your account. Frankly, the ability to stream to my Apple TV is a killer deal for me. I don't have to store them on a shelf or a hard drive.


thats the point in getting at.
as much as i love the losless audio (audio > video for me), not storing things on a shelf and having my movies at my fingertips is looking more and more enticing.

im in the process of ripping all of my blurays to digital so i can have everything stored on my hard drives.
then again i cant take those movies with me like i can with icloud........hence the love for digital copies.
just bring my apple tv to my parents house and the kds can watch 100 movies on the spot :)
 
Not sure what youre trying to say about theater prices versus itunes prices.

Didn't say anything about that. Must have been someone else.

Of course they're not In the theater at the same time as being on iTunes. But you'd pay $10 in the theater to see it once.

Yea, but that is on the big sceen with other people, maybe a date - can't compare that.

Expecting it to release for multi view ownership for less than that is unrealistic.

The only movies I've seen for $5 on disc are priced that way because they're either older movies, bad movies, or surplus copies they can't unload any other way.

Well, then again, your local WalMart or Hastings might have a worse selection (or you just got beaten by your neighbors being there quick enough) but here, I got pretty good DVDs for $5 and $7.50 and I don't even have to have internet connection to watch them. The point is still that the rights to a movie after a year or so out of the theaters are not that expensive. Otherwise, Netflix couldn't exist. If I would compare what I and my family watch on Netflix a month, we would not be able to find all that on iTunes either: Kipper the Dog, Thomas the Tank Engine - these movies and episodes are running constantly in my living room. None of that is on iTunes. Just searched for it. Allthough, I can find them at Hastings once in a while for the DVD on-the-go in the car. So much for "Crappy selection" or "good selection."
 
Yeah I don't see iTunes match for movies coming, wasn't the big selling feature to the music studios was that they'd get some money back from the match series from pirated copies, movies are pirated anywhere near the level music was/is.
 
Some of my Fox movies are still not available in the cloud, e.g. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and "Immortals" (both digital copies from the Blu-ray). Does anybody see these?
 
Some of my Fox movies are still not available in the cloud, e.g. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and "Immortals" (both digital copies from the Blu-ray). Does anybody see these?

I don't even see Rise of the Planet of the Apes in the store (US Store at least).
 
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