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22-Year-Old UK Citizen Arrested for 2020 Twitter Hack Affecting Apple
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Clark was 17 when he committed this "crime". Three years is an unduly harsh sentence, like too many in the U.S. Ever wonder why the incarceration rate is so high? Who pays for all these people in jail?
"If O'Connor is convicted, a federal district court judge will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."
What does this mean? He is in Spain. This crime should not be reason enough for an extradition. If he's tried in the U.K., why should the sentence "follow the U.S. sentencing guidelines"?
"If O'Connor is convicted, a federal district court judge will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."
What does this mean? He is in Spain. This crime should not be reason enough for an extradition. If he's tried in the U.K., why should the sentence "follow the U.S. sentencing guidelines"?
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We don't know if this was a War Games scenario where the person doing it got carried away or something much worse. I doubt he'll get time in a high security jail. Bankers never do. I'd guess a low security facility with no access to the internet.
Hopefully he can be rehabilitated and use his skills for making things better. Although you can never make Twitter better!
Setting aside the obvious moral problems, who seriously thinks they can hack the most prominent Twitter accounts on earth, take a bunch of money, but never get tracked down or caught?
$100,000 in Bitcoin -- by the time this goes to trial, this may be considered a petty larceny. 😄 Still needs to do time for committing the hacking crime.
Also, by way of clarification, why should crimes against American citizens and corporations by a UK citizen not be adjucated in the United States? Not sure why you think it makes sense to disregard extradition treaties and international law just because you view the alleged crimes as minor infractions.
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Tyranny of the Majority here.
Some people are born with Psychiatric and Neurological conditions that make them susceptible for gambling and this type of "too good to be true" deals. And usually, those people don't have a degree in STEM, and don't know much math.
Ridiculous use of tax payers $$ first offence for an 18yr old & 22yr old.
just one of these guys would eat more than 2 40yr old prison mates,
bedding, power, water, sewage etc all add up esp for the length of time you’re asking for.
do you really want theses punks taking up that many resources or a pedo or a 1st degree murderer?!
Maybe in exchange for extraditing this U.K. citizen, the US should kindly extradite the ambassador’s wife who killed a U.K. citizen due to driving on the wrong side of the road then fled back to the US…
Not sure if the US media covered this (probably not) but this caused outrage in the U.K.
Info here and here.
Not sure if the US media covered this (probably not) but this caused outrage in the U.K.
Info here and here.
Was thinking EXACTLY the same thing... funny how people on here will want justice for hacking twitter and scamming people but for a woman to kill a 19 year old boy and flee the country is a-ok by many.
The UK needs to get out the 'special' relationship with the US if they can't even return a killer to face trial over here. But the US fought tooth an nail a couple years ago to have an autistic man extradited for hacking too.
Nobody said the latter was a-OK. Not one person.
Understand that financial crimes like this can ruin lives. Yes there are some absurd takes on here but this isn't cute or clever nor is the perp a misunderstood genius who needs a job.
Maybe in 1979 it made sense to say "wow, a hacker! Someone hire him!" for a 17 year old who could access his school's database, but those days are over. He's nothing special in 2021 just a run of the mill thief who deserves (appropriate) prosecution.
Jailing felons isn’t about cost but justice. I would execute them first as they’re terrorists and terrorists should die.
Ok I was over reaching there, but the feeling in the UK from the US in general as well as both the Trump and Biden administrations is "F... Off" but the moment something like this comes up and they want people extradited or charged under US law... jog on!
Financial crimes ruin lives..... what about the family who lost their 19 year old son, who's killer fled and likely won't ever face any real punishment. Manslaughter ruins lives....
There's plenty of room in prison for all the criminals thankfully. And if 18 and 22 year olds are adults and can commit crimes, they should be treated as such and punished accordingly. No country should coddle criminals or they will continue to hurt others. These are sophisticated crimes conducted by sophisticated people.
We can't even get voter ID as it's bigoted, ignoring the bigotry of low expectations.. good luck with some internet ID
What?
Read the specs of Prisons in the USA! There isn't as much room as you think. it's mostly a private business with mega jails/prisons.
You sould like people I read about in K12 classes about how a mob is blood thirsty at hangings or stoning. Throwing the maximum sentence for a first office that is not murder huge grand theft larceny (this case isn't btw), or hostage/pedophile actions that ALL disrupt society members (this just affected Apple and a few boneheads that don't think their moves through) is ridiculous = and at YOUR expense as a tax payer.
Curious if your kids still live with you if you have any, they get into serious trouble do you beat them so they have to carry a pillow to sit on at school for a weak? Do you leave welts from your belt when you beat them? Do you lock them up as a hostage to ground them for days/weeks/months on end? If you cannot treat your own that way you protest for these kids in this case (especially without knowing the WHY behind the action), then you need to get out of your own view just a bit to see a much bigger world out there. But whatever that's your view your opinion your right.
Is this a felon charge though?
Execution ... for theft of $100K which most likely was recovered if not more of it. These kids sound like they grew up without much parental supervision, guidance and just bragged about it ... cause they can. Execution ... I'm VERY curious your thoughts of any crime you get incarcerated for.
I see any type of cyber terrorism as a clear and present danger to my country. Those engaged in ransomware and hacking need to pay severely and be dealt without leniency even though they’re just boys being boys.
Your response here is over the top -- makes a lot of assumptions and is filled with strawman arguments. Clearly you have been triggered. Sorry. Fact of the matter is that consequences (tough love if you will) is a deterrent to criminal behavior. Serious crime conducted by adults (we are not talking about juveniles) should be dealt with in a serious manner to protect society and the innocent. Common sense if you ask me. My kids are doing great -- thanks for asking.
Definitely true, twitter should have no ways for employees to access any of that information. Twitter should not even be able to see or edit that info nor should they be able to post as other people. It is twitter's fault 100%.
Corporate media didn't, non corporate media covered it somewhat (mostly IME that it was wrong to be given immunity for it). It is certainly a shame. The diplomatic immunity, however, is not only with U.S. diplomats, ya know? Do a search (DDG, go past page 1) to see some appalling diplomatic immunity abuse all over.
How about we drop extradition for Assange and drop the immunity protection for the diplomat's wife? In return you Brits stop exporting beefeater gin to the U.S.? I can't ever remember seeing straight for a good 2 days after drinking that poison.
I don’t know man, for sure he deserves what’s coming, but I find it just too fishy this insane amount of effort to bring these guys to justice while there’s people doing 200x fold worse and walking like nothing.
I was looking at Narcos Mexico, the first season is a 1:1 a documentary from Amazon “The Last Narc”… these people behead and skin people alive, massacre entire families kids included, everybody is involved from low level streets dealer to the presidents, Washington and Co included, punishments? Barely any, just turmoil because a DEA agent died and everybody needed a single escape goat.
I hear that Chicago has like 50 people shot wounded PER WEEKEND (and who knows how many deaths), I find that considerably more aggravating than getting $50K from Mr Musk… heck if we ONLY take into account the money cost of it, if the wounded person has no insurance it could run above $100K getting treated and hospitalized from bullet wounds?
What makes this specific instance of Bitcoin Twitter scamming deserve of a seemingly huge international task force to bring people to justice while there’s way worse getting free passes. Genuinely curious.
I wholeheartedly agree with you sir. Before I got to your post, my previous post was along these lines…
There are horrible crimes committed by horrible people. What made them become that is for another discussion, anybody is susceptible depending on family, environmental and other social conditions; but there’s heinous acts committed inland, outside, all around, close by and far away by the worst of the worst yet they are not prosecuted, at least not with the full international force applied to these two hackers.
I mentioned the insane amounts of assaults on a single dangerous city per weekend, which EASILY adds up to $100k several times over plus the family related aggravations, city clout degradation, lives lost, etc that ultimately has no price in my personal opinion.
I’m not saying don’t prosecute the hackers, please do, but I truly don’t get it why the others seem forgotten or getting scrapes regarding efforts.
Clear and preeent danger, and to your country? Did you get that straight out of Cloak & Dagger?
funny you’re not a police officer nor judge and the charges do not state cyber terrorism as much as you’d like to believe it is. Fact is it’s not.