23 inch apple lcd Good or Bad?

SoarEyes

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Thinking of buying a 23 inch lcd. But am a bit worried about
the quality. Anybody have any experience with them? I hear stories
about a pinkish hue. Thanks
 

NCTRNL

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From what I have heard and seen, they are absolutely amazing. Especially the new aluminum ones. They are beautiful...
 

wPod

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from what i have seen of them in the apple stores, they are incredible. but, if you would like me to test one out for you for the long term use, i will be glad to e-mail you with my shipping address so you can send me one :)
 

Bye Bye Baby

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Better than good- great

I use a 23 incher with my 1.5 ghz powerbook. It is truly amazing. Best screen I have ever had :) . Go right ahead and get one, colours are clear and bright, images are sharp. Everyone who sees it goes ooh ahh. Envy factor :mad: :eek:
 

NCTRNL

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Bye Bye Baby said:
I use a 23 incher with my 1.5 ghz powerbook. It is truly amazing. Best screen I have ever had :) . Go right ahead and get one, colours are clear and bright, images are sharp. Everyone who sees it goes ooh ahh. Envy factor :mad: :eek:
You're doing exactly what I want to do with mine...but the price...is a little prohibitive...
 

SoarEyes

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Bye Bye Baby said:
I use a 23 incher with my 1.5 ghz powerbook. It is truly amazing. Best screen I have ever had :) . Go right ahead and get one, colours are clear and bright, images are sharp. Everyone who sees it goes ooh ahh. Envy factor :mad: :eek:
What about the pink colourwash? thanks for the info’s
 

Andillo

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Feb 17, 2003
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Pink Cinema Display? Yes

While I don't own a Cinema Display 23 (yet), I went to some local stores to check them out.

Well, I saw two new 23 inch Apple displays, and they both are pink. At first, I didn't notice it and thought "nice, they're all right", but then, when I compared them to a 20 inch Cinema Display standing next to them, I saw the problem. Grey areas (like iTunes window) look a bit red/pink on the 23", but very neutral grey on the 20". Other colors, like green or blue, don't seem affected.

I tried to fix the problem with the expert calibration. You can change the white point to about 8500K, then most of the pink hue disappears. But then, the rest of the image looks very blueish.

It's not Apple's fault, it's the LG panel they're using. It is a bit pink and will be. Other displays which use the same panel (like the HP L2335) will have the same problem. It will only change once LG releases a new panel version, which could take about a year.

However, remember that if you don't know about the pink or if you don't have another "neutral" display to compare, you won't notice it. But it IS there.

Andillo
 

jimjiminyjim

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If you're going to read the article that Mac2004 posted, be SURE to read the second page. That's where what the author really thinks comes out.
 

jestershinra

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They're great. The looks are great, the quality is great, everything is awesome except for the pink twinge. You won't notice it if you don't have another monitor to compare to, and you can rid yourself of most of the pinkness through expert calibration. I own a 20", and I don't notice any pink, it's great.

Actually, at this point, I'd buy an older one. I think they're around $100 cheaper, which pays for whatever adapter you might need to connect your PB to the screen, and the only real difference is that the new ones have DVI and look different (better, IMO.)
 

nonamedvd

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Got a question...

For those who bought Dual Processor 2.0 last year (2003).. are they eligble to upgrade the new graphic card (6800) for their 30'' since they aren't liquid cooled fan? I'm curious.

Thanks :confused: :confused: :confused:
 

SoarEyes

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Think I made up my mind

Went to an apple reseller today and saw both the 17 inch imac g5 and the
23 inch lcd. The 23 inch is beautiful but it definately has a pinkish hue.

So then I thought.... If I do go for a 20 inch, I might aswell go for the 20
inch imac and sell my single 1.6 g5 Because it makes alot more noise then the imac.

what do you think is this a good plan.... or is the 20 inch lcd in the imac of
lesser quality than the 20 inch display?

Thanks again
 

QCassidy352

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SoarEyes said:
what do you think is this a good plan.... or is the 20 inch lcd in the imac of
lesser quality than the 20 inch display?

Thanks again
yes, the imac 20" lcd is of lesser quality than the new 20" cinema. The imac uses the same screen as the previous generation of displays, and the new line has slightly better specs. However, the older 20" was still a very nice screen, and you won't be unhappy using that as your display.
 

Joeytpg

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well i don't know why but i still like the old displays A LOT!.....in fact....if i was to get an apple display......i'd definitely go for the old 23" display..........it's cheaper and it looks and feels GREAT!...............even tho, the new one rock too.........but i don't know why............i still like the old ones a little bit better! :D



where can i buy the old displays???
 

Mac2004

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I agree, the old 23 inch Cineam displays are really are great. I just got one and I like it better than the new ones. When these older 23 inch displays first came out they were selling for $3500!! Now you can get them at Comp USA or MacMall.com catalog for $1600.
 

jestershinra

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nonamedvd said:
Got a question...

For those who bought Dual Processor 2.0 last year (2003).. are they eligble to upgrade the new graphic card (6800) for their 30'' since they aren't liquid cooled fan? I'm curious.

Thanks :confused: :confused: :confused:
I'm not sure I understand your question, but I'll try to help.

The nVidia 6800 Ultra graphics card will work in any PowerMac G5. It will not only occupy the AGP 8X slot, it will also cover one of the PCI or PCI-X slots in your machine.

The PowerMac June 2004 series isn't totally liquid cooled. In fact, the only PMG5 to use liquid cooling is the new Dual 2.5GHz machine. The 2.0 and 1.8 still use the gigantic heatsinks.

Hope this answers you questions...
 

macaddictann

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I just went to the Apple Store today to check out this display controversy.

My two cents:

I was really worried about the color being not as good on the 20-inch. It really isn't a problem. It didn't jump out at me. I clicked around, looked at a website, whatever, and it really didn't look wrong. Mainly, even though I theoretically prefer the clear plastic and don't like the brushed steel/aluminum effect, I prefer the new displays. Weird, but there it is. The edge is thinner, so there's less dead space. There's room underneath because you don't much see the stand with a keyboard in front. So it's very sexy.

I looked at the 23-inch while I was there to see about the pink tint, and yes, it's pink. I thought I'd need to see it next to another display, but I just looked at it alone as it sat there, and I noticed the pink. It would be enough to keep me from buying it, frankly, because metal isn't supposed to be pinkish. It's the principle of the thing.
 

Wolf112

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macaddictann said:
I just went to the Apple Store today to check out this display controversy.
It would be enough to keep me from buying it, frankly, because metal isn't supposed to be pinkish. It's the principle of the thing.
>>>>>>>>>

I went to the Apple store too and explained this so called controversy to the guys there. They didn't know about it but were pretty unfazed when I showed them the very slight pinkish hue on their displays. It's a bit like an urban legend, once you know about it you see it too. They told me that calibration could take care of it (I doubt that). I did, however, trust the article http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac...inema_displays/
(link posted earlier in this thread)
and bought my own display. Brought it home and, no pink!! So could it be the strong fluorescent lighting in the store? BTW, driving a 23" cinema display with a 12" PB G4 must be the coolest thing in a long time. The best of both worlds, fantastic!!
 

jaromski

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yeah i bought the old school 23" display in july/02. it was $4g back then, plus i had to shell out $150 for a dvi->adc adapter. aah the price you pay for being an early adopter in tech.

i don't notice any pinkish hue, i only notice how exquisite the display is every time i use it. really quite wonderful. everybody should buy one. i want a few more but no more money. :(

plus it really pisses other people off when they see the monitor on your desk. and that is enough reason for me to live another day...

now i just need a sweet dual 3GHZ G5 and i will have the ultimate system! hopefully '05 will bring that to pass.

jaromski
 

earthtoandy

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i went to an apple store today and made a point of checking out the hue. it is definitely there! but i played with the advanced calibration and although i didnt pay much attention to the process detail it did seem like it was cl;earing up quite easily.
 

James Craner

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I have been doing some "research" on this, I am interested in the 23", but also have got concerned that I may buy a lemon (or at least a pink grapefruit).

John lewis (Bristol) had the new 23" AL and the new 20" as well as the old style 23" plastic displays. The brightness on the new displays is much better than the old, but the 23" that John Lewis had on display did have a slight pink tinge on the brushed metal effect round the windows, however as Andillo says other colours don't appear effected.

Also the white area on say a blank word page appears a truer white than on the old display or my Powerbook that I took in to compare. John Lewis (who are pretty honest and reliable) checked and they have not had one 23" AL display back, and appeared unaware of the problem until I mentioned it.

I also phoned a specialist Apple Retailer in Bristol, Western computers, who are often selling to professional users, and they said that they have sold 20 or so 23" displays since release and they have not yet had any complaints.

Just for a laugh I also contacted Apple UK store and they stated that they are not aware of any problems with the new displays.
 

Diatribe

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Oh well, if I had the money I would buy two 20" anyway. You get the second display cheaper so it's not THAT much more than the 23" and two displays are always nicer than just one. But then again I don't have this money and I guess I won't for another year... anyone care to fund my displays? :D (it isn't tax deductable but you would know that what you did was for a good cause :D )
 

Mr. Anderson

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Diatribe said:
Oh well, if I had the money I would buy two 20" anyway. You get the second display cheaper so it's not THAT much more than the 23" and two displays are always nicer than just one. But then again I don't have this money and I guess I won't for another year... anyone care to fund my displays? :D (it isn't tax deductable but you would know that what you did was for a good cause :D )
I just went to the Apple Store in Chicago this weekend and saw the 23" display for the first time - truly awesome :D

I'm getting a new mac soon and I had thought of 2 20"s but the thing is doing digital photography the 23" display allows for more room on a single screen. So I'll be doing that.

I might eventually get a second 23" - but funds are limited right now....the dual G5 will cost enough as it is.... ;)

D
 

Diatribe

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Mr. Anderson said:
I just went to the Apple Store in Chicago this weekend and saw the 23" display for the first time - truly awesome :D

I'm getting a new mac soon and I had thought of 2 20"s but the thing is doing digital photography the 23" display allows for more room on a single screen. So I'll be doing that.

I might eventually get a second 23" - but funds are limited right now....the dual G5 will cost enough as it is.... ;)

D
You do have a point. For stuff like that even the 30" would be nice but that's not the kind of stuff most people are getting it for... for most it's the wow factor. And for that I'd get two 20".

But yes two 23"... that'd be nice. Which G5 are you getting?
 

James Craner

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< Slightly off topic>

While I know that many people do have a two monitor set-up, and I guess you get use to it, while I was in looking at the 23" monitors in John Lewis we had it connected to my powerbook in dual screen mode to compare the two screens. It was driving me mad opening an application and then dragging the document window to the other screen.

It must drive people nuts setting up all their documents over two screens. As I have not played with this much, perhaps their is an easy way of setting a dual screen system up. How does everyone else do this?

I also found it confusing watch my mouse disappear from one screen to the other. If I lost sight of the mouse, it kept taking me a while to work out which screen it was on.

I am sure you get use to this and it becomes second nature, but I must confess it put me off from getting two screens.