24fps thanks, but where is 25fps?

Discussion in 'iOS 12' started by outer_rim, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. outer_rim macrumors newbie

    Oct 30, 2018
    I ready don't understand why Apple have not included a 25fps option in the video settings.

    And why add 24fps (A legacy cinema standard) before 25fps?

    For Apple's developers to think everyone in the world must use 30fps is plain arrogant and to add 24fps means they have no idea about video creation in the modern world.

    25fps = EU, Australia & NZ, and most of ASIA.
    24fps = A legacy cinema standard no one uses except a cinema projector. The correct frame rate for universal movie use is 23.98 fps.
    30fps = North and South America.
  2. bapesta macrumors newbie

    Jul 26, 2004
    Why do you want to shoot in 25fps? Is it because you are viewing on 50hz TVs? If so might be smoother to shoot in 60fps and then pulldown to 50fps. There's not much perceived difference between 24 and 25 in a visual manner.
  3. frumpsnake, Nov 7, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2018

    frumpsnake macrumors member


    Dec 30, 2008
    Lol @ "legacy cinema standard no one uses" and "[Apple] have no idea about video creation in the modern world."

    24.000 fps is used *extensively* during most content creation workflows including digital capture for broadcast/streaming. It’s anything but legacy. It’s even a part of the BluRay spec (note that 25.000 progressive is not.) Do you think the company behind Final Cut Pro does not know what they're doing just because you've ripped a few Blu-Rays?

    Usually if a 23.976 (or 25.000) master is required it will be conformed to and compressed/stretched to that target frame rate from a 24.000 source.

    Native 25fps capture does occur in PAL territories, but it is rare. Which is why "PAL speedup" is a thing -- because it's usually been stretched from 24 to 25, not filmed at 25.

    But if you do wish to capture native 25 or 50fps content, Filmic Pro will do it.
  4. Yun0 macrumors 65816


    Jun 12, 2013
    Winnipeg, Canada
    You want to go DOWN in FPS? Wow... just cause 24/25 FPS is "video standard" doesn't mean its a good standard. Video should be more like what eyes see in reality since day one, 60 FPS..
  5. digitalexplr macrumors 6502a


    Dec 13, 2016
    Central Missouri
    This has to be one of the silliest post in a while. Mac's have been the standard in video production departments and studios for a loooong time. Yet you claim Apple has no idea about video creation?? Seriously?
  6. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    I believe the OP is concerned with "judder" resulting from inconsistent frame cadence.

    OP: What is the application and devices you are using that this is an issue?
  7. Kram Sacul macrumors 6502

    Kram Sacul

    Jan 10, 2018
    Southern California
    Shoot in 24fps, convert to 25 in post. The PAL format just won’t die.
  8. e1me5 macrumors 6502


    Jun 11, 2013
    24p in the iPhone is likely a 23.98p just with an easier name. DSLRs do that as well... 23.98 conforms well in the NTSC 30p/60i framerate. Also 30p is the half of 60HZ screen refresh frequency most smartphones have, so playbacks better on the phone without any conversation or pulldowns. 24p is not legacy as all DCPs require the master to be in 24p to pass QC.

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