24p?

thekayman

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From the limited testing the new aTV has got so far, do we know if it supports 24p output?

Then, the movies in iTunes are encoded in 24p or 30p? And what about Netflix? Whatever I have been watching in the last year has had varying degrees of judder. I don't have a BR player to test whether real 24p output from a native 24p source makes a difference.
 

Gueeds

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The only streaming box I know of that even supports 24p is the Vudu spark which no one uses. Really wish companies would start caring about proper film cadence.
 
Do we know this for sure? Even that forums link seems to be "evidence" talking about app frame rates instead of video (and some even call others out in there as such).

What's different about this version of :apple:TV is that Apple is showing tangible support for a frame rate other than 30fps. The tech specs show 60fps. That's great. But it also offers the possibility- however remote- that if Apple did go to the trouble of creating a flexible FPS (as it still must also support 30fps too), why not 24fps as well? If Apple programmers went to the trouble of creating the FPS flexibility of 30 or 60fps, it wouldn't seem a huge leap to also embrace THE film standard at 24fps, addressing a long-term film enthusiast gripe about all past :apple:TVs.

I'm skeptical myself but at least the possibility is there... unless someone can show any of us some definitive answer to this question. We should gain clarity to all such questions in just a couple more days.
 

thekayman

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What's different about this version of :apple:TV is that Apple is showing tangible support for a frame rate other than 30fps. The tech specs show 60fps.
support is one thing, the fps at which it outputs to the tv is another, I think

now that you mention it, I gues the new aTV will actually output everything at 60p.
 
Could be but I doubt it. I'm not sure all HDTVs out there can take a 1080p 60fps signal if everything was sent that way. If true, I would guess that means the "4" must be able to send 30fps too and if it has been updated to do either 30 or 60, why not 24 too?

Besides, everything in the iTunes store will still need to support 30fps for :apple:TV3 and below. So the "4" MUST be able to support 30 and 60 as it will be working with that same 30fps video via iTunes. If they went to the trouble to make it work at 60 (for which there is relatively little content available), why not also support 24 for which just about every film ever shot is 24fps?

That written... I'm skeptical too. But I'll hold out hope for the purists who almost certainly covet 24fps much, MUCH more than they want 60fps.
 

virduk

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The only streaming box I know of that even supports 24p is the Vudu spark which no one uses. Really wish companies would start caring about proper film cadence.
Some AndroidTV boxes do. The app needs to support it though.
 

baltoyyz

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The only streaming box I know of that even supports 24p is the Vudu spark which no one uses. Really wish companies would start caring about proper film cadence.
Nvidia Shield TV supports 24p, Kodi for android TV does too.
 

john.burn

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What's different about this version of :apple:TV is that Apple is showing tangible support for a frame rate other than 30fps. The tech specs show 60fps. That's great. But it also offers the possibility- however remote- that if Apple did go to the trouble of creating a flexible FPS (as it still must also support 30fps too), why not 24fps as well? If Apple programmers went to the trouble of creating the FPS flexibility of 30 or 60fps
The current 3rd gen also supports 60fps btw. And possibly 48fps.

John.
 

thekayman

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Since Apple = simplicity, I suspect everything will be sent out at 60p and that'll be that.
 

neander

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Still nothing... depressing. Would be a very good box with all the apps and 24p if they could make it happen.