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2600xt?

adom said:
no prob. i would seriously advise that you buy one if you are looking into it. by far one of the best purchases ive made to date
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Sorry to hear about the accident. Take care of yourself before you think of us. 🙂

By the way, that's a pretty good score for 3Dmark06. The full speed Mobility XT card gets 4002 according to notebookcheck.
 
Ditto. I just got my iMac and I'll probably be installing bootcamp soon to test things out. Has anybody tried Age of Empires 3?
 
adom said:
not from me im afraid. the only game i really ever played back in the pc days was CS:Source. which is now the only game i play on my mac. plays great on maxed out res and settings tho.
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I can confirm this. I played Counter-Strike: Source on Vista through Boot Camp at 1920x1200 on the new 24" iMac at full settings for everything at around 50-60 fps. It drops to anywhere between 35-60 on crazy HDR maps.
 
I'mAMac said:
I'd rather see some intense game benches rather than HL2. Yeah it looks good but i can get 50-60 fps on my comp with high settings so the benchmarks would be irrelevant.
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They wouldn't really be irrelevant because people could compare these results to the results from other graphics cards in HL2. This would give people a good comparison as to how the card in the iMac compares to other cards.
 
TBi said:
They wouldn't really be irrelevant because people could compare these results to the results from other graphics cards in HL2. This would give people a good comparison as to how the card in the iMac compares to other cards.
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But the imac can only be had with one of three cards. So what other cards could you possibly compare it to? And why would you want to do something so depressing?
 
diamond.g said:
But the imac can only be had with one of three cards. So what other cards could you possibly compare it to? And why would you want to do something so depressing?
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Personally i'm curious as to how it compares against the card in a MBP. A lot of people are wondering if it would be worth spending the extra money to maybe get a Mac Pro.

Also there are the people on the windows side who are wondering how many FPS they will have to give up to get apple!
 
TBi said:
Personally i'm curious as to how it compares against the card in a MBP. A lot of people are wondering if it would be worth spending the extra money to maybe get a Mac Pro.

Also there are the people on the windows side who are wondering how many FPS they will have to give up to get apple!
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New benchmarks available at BeraFeats ( http://www.barefeats.com/imacal3.html )

Don't forget, the MBP has a nVidia 8600m GT (m = mobile). the HD2600XT clocked normally should be faster than the 8600m GT but slower than the 7600GT.
 
TBi said:
Personally i'm curious as to how it compares against the card in a MBP. A lot of people are wondering if it would be worth spending the extra money to maybe get a Mac Pro.

Also there are the people on the windows side who are wondering how many FPS they will have to give up to get apple!
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oh, I had this long and elaborate post about gaming and Macs. But everyone should already know the state of Mac gaming (and the hardware to go with it). I did notice in the Barefeats benches that Motion 3 scored really high on the 2600. What does Motion use the GPU for? Something that you guys have to realize is the 2xxxHD line really isn't that good of a performer for games, but for GPGPU stuff they rock.
 
Cernunnos said:
Don't forget, the MBP has a nVidia 8600m GT (m = mobile). the HD2600XT clocked normally should be faster than the 8600m GT but slower than the 7600GT.
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That's why i like having benchmarks to compare them.


diamond.g said:
oh, I had this long and elaborate post about gaming and Macs. But everyone should already know the state of Mac gaming (and the hardware to go with it). I did notice in the Barefeats benches that Motion 3 scored really high on the 2600. What does Motion use the GPU for? Something that you guys have to realize is the 2xxxHD line really isn't that good of a performer for games, but for GPGPU stuff they rock.
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Yes i know you shouldn't buy a mac if you want gaming. Can't stop someone from hoping that it won't be absolutely rubbish. As long as the graphics card is as fast as my old 6800GT (clocked as an ultra) i'm happy!
 
TBi said:
That's why i like having benchmarks to compare them.




Yes i know you shouldn't buy a mac if you want gaming. Can't stop someone from hoping that it won't be absolutely rubbish. As long as the graphics card is as fast as my old 6800GT (clocked as an ultra) i'm happy!
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This is also why I had asked for some 3dmark06 benchmarks, not that 3dmark is the final word .. but I know what my current gaming Wintel PC scores under 3dmark, and it would seem the new iMacs out score my current machine.. My only hesitation about the new iMacs (having a graphics chip thats less than whats generally considered "average" by the industry) is that the iMac would score lower and/or have a worse performance than what I am currently using. I'm happy to see that according to adom, it scores 3643 in 3dmark06 vs my current system which scores a paltry 2779 (AGP Nvidia 7800 GS and 2.5GHZ P4 + 2GB ram).. so for me, I can look forward to a better gaming experience with the new iMacs.. I am however still watching with great interest what other "real" games are scoring for performance... While I am not a huge "gamer" per-sea, there are a few games I do want to play even after getting my iMac and those unfortunately do not have native OSX ports...
 
EricG07 said:
This is also why I had asked for some 3dmark06 benchmarks, not that 3dmark is the final word .. but I know what my current gaming Wintel PC scores under 3dmark, and it would seem the new iMacs out score my current machine.. My only hesitation about the new iMacs (having a graphics chip thats less than whats generally considered "average" by the industry) is that the iMac would score lower and/or have a worse performance than what I am currently using. I'm happy to see that according to adom, it scores 3643 in 3dmark06 vs my current system which scores a paltry 2779 (AGP Nvidia 7800 GS and 2.5GHZ P4 + 2GB ram).. so for me, I can look forward to a better gaming experience with the new iMacs.. I am however still watching with great interest what other "real" games are scoring for performance... While I am not a huge "gamer" per-sea, there are a few games I do want to play even after getting my iMac and those unfortunately do not have native OSX ports...
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That P4 is holding you back. You could get a pretty good increase switching to A64 (or Core 2). I have stated this elsewhere, but the R6xx series cards do very well with 3dmark compared to the G8x cards. But that is due to driver optimizations. If you aren't playing a popular game don't expect the same performance delta, for a while at least. The architecture that ATI chose to go with (starting with the R480) has favored math over textures. Right now the only programs that can take advantage of that stuff happen to not be games (which is why I said it is great at GPGPU stuff).
 
diamond.g said:
That P4 is holding you back. You could get a pretty good increase switching to A64 (or Core 2). I have stated this elsewhere, but the R6xx series cards do very well with 3dmark compared to the G8x cards. But that is due to driver optimizations. If you aren't playing a popular game don't expect the same performance delta, for a while at least. The architecture that ATI chose to go with (starting with the R480) has favored math over textures. Right now the only programs that can take advantage of that stuff happen to not be games (which is why I said it is great at GPGPU stuff).
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I figured as much.. as far as games go, its mostly Dark Age of Camelot at this point, perhaps some WoW (but thats a different story since there is an OSX client).. Warhammer Online, Hero's Journey, Age of Conan in the future.. So long as those run sufficiently well (and better than what I got now {as it would seem they would} I will be very happy).. Im not into FPS .. just mostly those MMO's , ,,

I already decided to not invest anymore money into the wintel system and put it aside for the iMac.. the 7800 was the last thing I purchased for the windows box.
 
Strange things going on with Barefeats' WoW tests.

I've never seen better framerates in OS X when compared with Windows.
In fact, I usually get about TWICE as many FPS in Windows when playing World of Warcraft than in OS X.
 
whateverandever said:
Strange things going on with Barefeats' WoW tests.

I've never seen better framerates in OS X when compared with Windows.
In fact, I usually get about TWICE as many FPS in Windows when playing World of Warcraft than in OS X.
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Multi-threaded OpenGL. Now we can just hope that more games start using it too...
 
whateverandever said:
Strange things going on with Barefeats' WoW tests.

I've never seen better framerates in OS X when compared with Windows.
In fact, I usually get about TWICE as many FPS in Windows when playing World of Warcraft than in OS X.
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Yay! seeing as the only game I've bothered my arse with recently is WoW, then this confirms that I *need* a new imac.

😉
 
My current video card (Nvidia 7800GT) scored about 3000 in the 3dMark06 demo.

Seeing that the iMac scored 3600, maybe I should consider this?

Can anyone try running the BioShock demo - I am interested in seeing how this runs...if it can run it at all 😉
 
MDP said:
My current video card (Nvidia 7800GT) scored about 3000 in the 3dMark06 demo.

Seeing that the iMac scored 3600, maybe I should consider this?

Can anyone try running the BioShock demo - I am interested in seeing how this runs...if it can run it at all 😉
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3dmark isn't a reliable benchmark. In normal games the 7800gt will beat the 2600 in the imac.
 
I'd say it wasn't a case of 3d Mark being inaccurate, but a problem with your system. A bottleneck with your CPU or memory is dragging your score right down.
 
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