will be using the machine to edit high definition video and rencode my entire video library
i have a 2010 mac mini currently and while its great for browsing the net when i go to use handbrake the thing heats up like a hot plate
2010 and 2011 Mac minis will do that; thank Apple's illogical quest for thinness in everything, including things that really don't need it. Still though, just because it gets hot doesn't mean that it won't still do the work without causing damage to the machine. They don't get THAT hot without first becoming super slow.
other option is a macbook pro and a tb display
From the standpoint of machine longevity and upgradability, a non-retina MacBook Pro beats both the Mac mini and the iMac. It will definitely be faster than the Mac mini (though the higher-end Mac mini's graphics will probably still beat the graphics of the current 13" MacBook Pro). That's not a bad idea; though it is costly.
how radical a difference is a dual i7 over a quad core i5 for my needs like video encoding
If you're talking the dual-core i7 in the Mac mini versus the quad-core i5 in the iMac, remember that the mini's dual-core i7 is a mobile CPU and the i5 in the iMac is a desktop CPU; the i5 will be faster by far. There's no question, the iMac is definitely faster than the Mac mini; but the Mac mini is more reliable. As far as running Handbrake, you can do that just fine on the Mac mini you currently have. Hell, I was doing it just fine on an Early 2006 (first gen Intel Core Duo) iMac. Really, unless your needs are super-demanding, both machines will be more than adequate.
is the ivy bridge in the recent mbp refresh that big of an upgrade over the 2011 sandy bridge processors in the 2011 imac
Again, you're comparing desktop CPUs to laptop CPUs, but otherwise, I'd say, yes, it's certainly a good improvement. We obviously want those chips in an iMac, assuming Apple doesn't just wait until Haswell to update the iMac.
ive always gone cheap with my computers and i really wanna go all out and grab a machine i wont hate in a year this time
You won't hate anything currently being sold in a year. I don't hate the Mac mini I'm using now, which is also a 2010 model.
It's just not the right Mac given my needs which is why I'll sell it or repurpose it back into a Server.
also how do the graphics compare on a 2010 mbp compared to a 2011 imac
2011 iMac's graphics are way better.
the thing im running into is i have an ipad 3 so im trying to figure out how everything is gonna work cause i cant imagine the mbp ever leaving the house but it seems like mbp has alot more features then the imac currently has and that thunderbolt display is stupid nice
The MBP I end up getting to replace my Mac mini probably won't be doing all that much traveling, but honestly, just having the ability to take my computer from room to room within the house is really nice.
so ive basically decided on getting a macbook pro and a thunderbolt display or just a retina display macbook pro outright with no display (will use ps3 3d display)
any opinions on the better rig?
ill be using this machine to rencode about 1200 videos and to edit hd video with imovie/final cut pro/ toast 11
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id get the 1499 mbp if i go with the non retina one or the base retina if i go with that
Go Non-retina. Retina is not worth it as a majority of the apps and content you use won't be optimized until you are getting ready to upgrade/replace that machine anyway.
I've never owned a mac mini, only an iMac and here's my view on this.
I've owned my 24" early 09' iMac for just over 3 years and while I love this thing and handled everything I've thrown at it so far with ease, on my next desktop purchase I'm going with the mini+TB display.
My iMac screen started developing a defect in the bottom left quadrant due to heat from CPU/GPU whereby after an hour of intensive use (media editing and other things) that part of the screen became visibly darker and began to retain text and images akin to image burn-in. AppleStore knew of the issue right away and thankfully replaced the LCD panel but reading on the boards it seems many users who have experienced this issue (and had their LCD replaced) seem to have it come back over time.
As much as I love the AIO concept, I think there are serious design drawbacks that affect some users.
I'm now convinced that at least for my needs I now prefer the separate screen and PC concept, and I'm really liking the idea of having a fully loaded mini with a nice display where I can keep the display and just upgrade or fully replace the mini ever 12-24 months. To me that's something that's financially achievable whereas replacing an iMac every 12-24 months might be a bit much.
Replacing any Mac 12-24 months is extreme, mini or otherwise. They're made to last a good 4-5 years until they can't run the latest OS X and even beyond then they still have anywhere from 3-5 years beyond that point. Regardless, you hit the hammer on the head regarding the iMac and All-in-ones. They're just not reliable, especially when they're as thin as the current design of iMacs are.