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Low End G4 Box?

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http://www.macplus.org/magplus/article.php?id_article=4525

translation by maradong:

Following a source, in which we got full trust, Apple would be planning to remodell it s office computers. On the Side of the iMac and the PowerMac a new "box" would make it s appearance. The distiny of that box would be to sit in the low proce segment ( We will probably see the disparation of the eMac ).
In a report of more than 400 pages, delivered some weeks ago, by a special cellula, people ask themself of the shape, the new computer will get. Will it be a pizaa box, or a cube, half - sperique or fine tower.
In the basic configuration, build up around a G4 cpu, with a video cart of 32 mb, and some 256 MB of RAM.
One of the possible conclusions is particulary "alléchante": A price of 599 $ is quite probable. The impact of the commercialisation, of such a machine is analysed as a very positive for the conqueration of the grand public market, and SOHO.
Previsions look like a production ranging from 70 000 to 80 000 units / month, in the first year.
The effect for the iMac would be like a lowering of the sales by 8-12 %.
As usual this information is to be taken with some salt.
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arn
 
Article Link
https://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/01/low-end-g4-box/
This may look like this in English :
Following a source, in which we got full trust, Apple would be planning to remodell it s office computers. On the Side of the iMac and the PowerMac a new "box" would make it s appearance. The distiny of that box would be to sit in the low proce segment ( We will probably see the disparation of the eMac ).
In a report of more than 400 pages, delivered some weeks ago, by a special cellula, people ask themself of the shape, the new computer will get. Will it be a pizaa box, or a cube, half - sperique or fine tower.
In the basic configuration, build up around a G4 cpu, with a video cart of 32 mb, and some 256 MB of RAM.
One of the possible conclusions is particulary "alléchante": A price of 599 $ is quite probable. The impact of the commercialisation, of such a machine is analysed as a very positive for the conqueration of the grand public market, and SOHO.
Previsions look like a production ranging from 70 000 to 80 000 units / month, in the first year.
The effect for the iMac would be like a lowering of the sales by 8-12 %.
As usual this information is to be taken with some salt.
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Selon une source en laquelle nous avons toute confiance, Apple envisagerait de remodeler sa gamme d'ordinateurs de bureau : à côté des iMac et PowerMac serait commercialisé un "boîtier", destiné à occuper le segment de l'entrée de gamme (on verrait alors sans doute disparaître l'eMac). Dans un rapport de plus de 400 pages rendu il y a plusieurs semaines par une "cellule de prospective", on s'interroge sur la forme à lui donner (boite à pizza, cube, demi-sphère et "tour fine" ( ?) sont envisagés) ; sur la configuration standard (bâtie autour d'un processeur G4, d'une carte vidéo 32 Mo et de 256 Mo de RAM) et surtout le nombre de configurations devant être proposées à la vente.
L'une des conclusions est particulièrement alléchante : "compte tenu d'un prix de revient entre 480 et 520 dollars selon les options retenues, un prix de commercialisation de 599 dollars est envisageable". L'impact de la mise en vente d'une telle machine est analysée comme "très positive pour la pénétration du marché grand public et SOHO (PME-PMI)", avec des chiffres de ventes prévisionnels de 70 à 80000 unités/mois sur la première année, un impact limité sur les ventes de la "gamme professionnelle" et un effet induit de baisse des ventes d'iMac de 8 à 12%

Emettons quand même une réserve de taille sur la portée de ces informations : ce n'est pas parce que ce rapport (et sans doute des dizaines d'autres, de teneurs variées) circule dans certaines spères de Cupertino qu'il sera suivi d'effet.
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Originally posted by scem0
can't offer a english translation but the babeldish translation sure is making me hungry.



that makes me hungry too, but for computers ;).

Could someone convert 480,520, and 600 francs into USD?
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actually that are already dollars...
francs would be like 1/40 $. But there is a currency called €, did you hear of it :D
 
looks like an Xbox from apple

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hm....
hmm.....
hmmm.....

I figure I just don't like all in one solutions that are not protable computers.

And what is that with 256MB ram? I don't really do to much but with my 640MB I think I'm at the lower limit of reasoable computing and reloading time.
 
So, I'm sure a lot of speculation will come from this topic....

Let me state the obvious...

If Apple is going to introduce PowerPC 970 machines, then maybe the G4 can be pushed down to power these "low end" boxes.... making the cost of entry to get on a Mac much cheaper.... and still provide price differentiation between the low end boxes and the high end 970s.

arn
 
Say hello to...

XMac!
Has big marketing value I think.
But all that iMac,eMac and so many species might be confusing for users?
They better come up with low-low-end PowerMac.
Or something like iMac base without screen would be cool.
 
this would be a good idea. a low-priced G4. could probably lure a lot of switchers.
 
I think it's perfectly possible - and I hope it happens. It would make perfect transitionary sense for the intro of the next generation chip macs.
 
What's the market for this? I hope they dump the eMac if they do it. The eMac is already competition enough for the iMac. I fear a return to the Amelio era when no one knew what anything was or why. Everyone loves the iMac's design. If they keep it in the low 1000's (the $1800/2300 17" bothers me greatly) and have this cube-ish G4 in the mid-100's, I see a market. Otherwise, sounds risky. The differentiation of 970/G4 products seems plausible and acceptable.
 
I don't care if it is terribly expandable as long as it is headless (no monitor). That's what is missing from the Apple lineup.
 
This box's has to be a Cube v2.

Its going to be the switchers computer. By a cheap Mac that you can use with your old PC monitor with rather than by a all in one iMac or emac or spending alot of money getting a low end PowerMac.
 
its a good idea

lol my thoughts exactly... its gatta be a cube its the perfect idea, just add a fan in there and there you go! lol this would be a great switch pc wonder how fast its gonna be... 800? 1ghz? or mayb 1.25?
 
Originally posted by arn

If Apple is going to introduce PowerPC 970 machines, then maybe the G4 can be pushed down to power these "low end" boxes.... making the cost of entry to get on a Mac much cheaper.... and still provide price differentiation between the low end boxes and the high end 970s.

arn
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arn... i hope youre right. that is all.


:D
 
CUBE!

i want to know when these are supposed to come out! i need a new computer, and my dad is thinking of upgrading!:D i just hope it's soon enough:)
i can't WAIT!!:D:D:D:D
 
I think this is a good idea to get the mac in the business market place. Business do not want to buy a computer like the eMac, becasue if something goes wrong, then they have to send it back to Apple or get it repaired instead of fixing it in house. I think this is great if Apple actually releases it, and it will fill a big hole in Apple's current line up.
 
Does anyone remember that MacWhispers report from a few weeks back about a mysterious Cube possibly going into development? They suggested it might be a TAM, but it could very well be this machine.

Long live the Cube! ;)
 
I just want a cube.. With a fast graphics card.. Nice ammount of ram.. Decent harddrive.. And a good processor... A gamer mac.. Why is it so hard to come by? :/
 
This displayless machine would be the perfect switching tool. PC users could keep their old display and so not have to upgrade that to get a Mac.
 
I just don't get the eMac - it is too bulky for my taste. And the iMac isn't what it used to be, as it transformed into the Apple's mid-range product. The high-end 17-inch SuperDrive is more popular, I believe.

I think that they should discountinue the eMac so they can be free of all the problems associated with all-in-one design and CRTs. It should be replaced by the no-frille G4 destop for under $700.
 
Well I would get one of these Macs if they came out. I dont have the money to spend $2000+ on a new computer every two years so I have to get PCs most of the time I upgrade my computer. And people are complaining about confusions in product lines, well Dell has several thousand and it sells far more computers. But I just hope the new Mac if it is true has the following:

1 AGP 4x slot
1 PCI slot
2 RAM DDR333 RAM slots
2 IDE connectors
Firewire400
USB1.1

I will upgrade most of the components with PC bits like getting a cheap PC Graphics Card and flashing its bios. But knowing apple if this is true it will be heavily crippled using very old tec like:
ATI 32MB 128ultra graphics
No expansion
PC100 RAM
Max 2 IDE devices
20GB HD
 
Originally posted by iJed
This displayless machine would be the perfect switching tool. PC users could keep their old display and so not have to upgrade that to get a Mac.
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While I haven't used a Mac with an seperate since my Performa, I do know of Apple's constant changing of the connections required to make the whole thing work. Toss in a PC CRT monitor and it becomes that much harder.

While I see using the old PC monitor as a great idea, I see compatability issues (correct me if I'm wrong, of course).
 
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