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EDIT: 3D Touch enabled for home screen icons and notifications with DB4. Most of what I have below remains unchanged but it continues to improve!

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I thought I’d start a thread devoted to 3D touch in IOS 13. There seems to be a lot of disagreement as to what exactly has and hasn’t been implemented in IOS 13 and beta 3 in particular, so I cracked out my old iPhone 6S running IOS 12 to compare how 3D touch has changed between IOS 12 and IOS 13 beta 3. The differences are interesting.

Apple definitely HAS implemented 3D touch in beta 3, but with some key differences and omissions. In some cases there’s a complete omission of 3D touch (i.e. Reminders), in some cases there’s only a haptic touch where there used to be 3D touch (i.e. home screen icons), in many cases the 3D touch acts differently, and in some cases 3D touch functionality was actually added (i.e. Stocks app).

One major difference that I’ve noticed is that many times Apple now employs what I call a persistent peek with menu options. It’s kind of like a pop with options except you don’t see the full content so it’s not really a pop. For example, if you hard press on a news article in the News app you see a preview with 6 options. This doesn’t go away when you remove your finger, nor does it pop into the article if you press harder. The former action was to peek then pop.

I define a haptic touch as any time you hard press on a screen element and get haptic feedback and something happens only after you lift your finger (kind of a delayed reaction). I define a 3D touch peek/pop as any time you hard press on a screen element and get haptic feedback and something happens before you lift your finger (more immediate).

FWIW, the behavior appears to be exactly the same with my XS and my 8. I know some people were saying they couldn’t get 3D touch to work at all.

Below is a list of what I’ve discovered in the stock apps. (wording in parenthesis is how IOS 12 behaves)


Apps:

Mail: Persistent peek with menu (peek/pop previously)

Messages: Peek and pop on photos (same). None for hyperlinks (peek/pop previously).

Maps: Pop with menu (same)

Contacts: Pop with menu (same)

Photos: Persistent peek with menu options (peek/pop previously)

News: Persistent peek with menu options (peek/pop previously)

ITunes Store: Peek/pop (same)

App Store: Persistent peek with no functionality (peek/pop previously)

Music: Persistent peek with menu options (same)

Reminders: None (Pop previously)

Notes: Persistent peek with menu options (Peek/pop previously)

Calendar: Move events only (peek/pop/move events previously)

Stocks: Persistent peek with menu options, no pop on Stock News (peek/pop previously), Pop on stocks (no action previously)

Home: Pop (pop previously)

Facetime: Pop with menu (same)

Files: Pop with menu (peek/pop previously)

Find My (iPhone): None (peek/pop previously)



Other:

Home screen icons: Haptic pop (peek/pop previously)

Control center: Pop and change levels (same). Note that change levels with flashlight doesn’t work

Notifications: Haptic peep only (peek previously)

Keyboard press for cursor: Same
 
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Notifications kinda suck on the XS now without the real 3D Touch functionality. I don’t like that you have to lift your finger before the notification expands into quick reply.
 
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No true peek and pop is a big one
For me

The keyboard and app switcher seem to be “normal” but everything else is just haptic touch or a downgrade from what we’ve had since iOS 9

Real bummer.
 
Notifications kinda suck on the XS now without the real 3D Touch functionality. I don’t like that you have to lift your finger before the notification expands into quick reply.
Agh same. While it isn’t a big deal, the amount of time it takes does add up overtime and has stopped me from using 3D Touch on notifications altogether.
 
For my iPhone X they have. It’s all haptic Touch now.

I have to imagine they will change this with future betas. I can't imagine they would add 3D Touch to the 8 and the XS and not the X.
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Notifications kinda suck on the XS now without the real 3D Touch functionality. I don’t like that you have to lift your finger before the notification expands into quick reply.

I agree. This is where I miss 3D Touch the most. Fingers crossed for the next beta.
 
I have XS and my Gf an X. 3D Touch is absent in most functions on both phones. I don’t think there is any difference between the two.
 
I have XS and my Gf an X. 3D Touch is absent in most functions on both phones. I don’t think there is any difference between the two.

I'm curious, how does your experience differ from the list I had posted above, for example in photos?
 
So is Apple phasing out 3D Touch because of cost? Because they found a better idea that’s cheaper? I don’t mind haptic touch but it sure does feel a second or two slower than 3D Touch did.
 
I get why Apple is likely to do away with 3D Touch on the new iPhones, but on the current phones that have the hardware to support it Apple should keep 3D Touch everywhere as it is superior to Haptic Touch. Otherwise that is just wasted hardware!
 
I think it's totally a cost thing because haptic touch can do everything 3D Touch did across all platforms at a much lower cost. But, like you said, the experience is just not the same. It's fine if you have an SE or XR and never had a phone that supported 3D Touch but what a step back if you were used to 3D Touch. It's strange, like a totally non Apple-like move. I'm not sure Steve would have approved of this. Oh well, the good news is it doesn't look like they're abandoning the phones that support 3D Touch.
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I get why Apple is likely to do away with 3D Touch on the new iPhones, but on the current phones that have the hardware to support it Apple should keep 3D Touch everywhere as it is superior to Haptic Touch. Otherwise that is just wasted hardware!

I'm guessing they will. They added a lot of 3D Touch to beta 3 and I'm sure more 3D Touch support will come in future betas.
 
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