Hello forum, Before you ask, yes.. I've searched google, this forums search function, an some other places. Yes this is about the ring tones not working, NO my phone is not jail broken, nor do I want it to be. I don't care what the benefits are. It stays as is. Now I've been to the apple forums, its full of soccer moms who think because they've read the manual they "know it all". I've never met one intelligent soul over there as of yet. I come here seeking smarter people who "know wth their doing". The phone is on iOS 5.0 not 5.x, that's what the phone an itunes says so thats what I have to put here. I'm not on a mac, my windows is legal (much like all the other stuff I own), it is regularly updated (yes I checked "everything" including the usual codecs I own). I could care less about the issue of paid ring tones, I have ONE ring tone an I had it made for me. Worked forever an ever until iOS 5 came out. Can someone cut to the chase here? a sure fire way to get this to work? I've tried changing it into one type an back into m4a then m4r an all around. It's 6 seconds long, can't be trimmed anymore than that. So.. help? please?