3rd party devs piss me off

Discussion in 'macOS Sierra (10.12)' started by MacBAir, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. MacBAir macrumors member


    Aug 5, 2016
    Apple has a beta program. An OS preview is always released at the WWDC.

    How is it possible that some well known devs don't update their apps at all during that period? What is LG's excuse (mouse software not working on Sierra, only shares that fact after Sierra is released)? What about Endnote (pdf bug, asks for users to not update and only shares that after Sierra is released)? Why is steam clearly from the 10.5 era (tries to make the app as obnoxious as possible, with many many bugs and disgusting looks)?

    It's obvious that some devs and company haven't adopted themselves to the always changing, always uptodate, world of today. Not to mention enterprise.

    This just pisses me off. It happens on the windows side of things, as well, despite MS only changing the lipstick of the pig.

    All of these apps were gone from my usage many moons ago. It's time for everybody to do the same. Improve or perish.

    *some third party devs
  2. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    OS X is an afterthought for many devs. This kind of behavior has been going on forever.

    Consider all the apps you have that still work fine that weren't updated. More than likely they didn't not update them because they worked fine, they just got lucky and they didn't break.

    I actually find the smaller devs are the ones that keep their apps up to date with OS X updates.
  3. MacBAir thread starter macrumors member


    Aug 5, 2016
    It doesn't matter if OS X is an afterthought for many devs or not. It certainly shouldn't be for the makers of Endnote, for example, due to the overwhelming presence of Macs in academics.

    Anyway, if you release a product and don't update it or if you don't advise your users many months earlier or don't even test it, the company in question is garbage and a scammer.
  4. rshrugged macrumors 6502a

    Oct 11, 2015
    I don't know which developers can be classified as lazy. But in the non-lazy ones defense, an OS preview is just that, a preview. Spending time on something that will evolve, which could potentially make any adjustments obsolete, is a waste of resources.
  5. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
    Public APIs change from beta release to beta release and Swift 3 (as an example) was very unstable in the Xcode 8 beta, changing the Foundation/AppKit/UIKit API syntax from version to version and breaking the code all the time. Even for the really small app I am working on it was a serious pain. I can understand completely that bigger developers wait for a bit. After all, not all of them charge their customers for all this extra work that has to be undertaken each year.

    Why are you upgrading to Sierra right away if you depend on the software? There is no shame in staying with El Capitan for just a while longer.
  6. steve23094 macrumors 68020


    Apr 23, 2013
    When you say 'LG' I presume you're talking about Logitech because you mention mice.

    So despite comments from previous posters about how things change from beta revision to revision, in Logitech's case it's just because they are total crap at updating their drivers for Mac. Quite often in the past it has taken them six plus months to release drivers that aren't broken in new OS X releases.

    I gave up waiting for Logitech to get their act together and now use Steermouse, it's clear they're never going to change. But it sucks I had to spend extra money on a mouse driver when Logitech sell as 'Mac compatible'.
  7. Fishrrman macrumors P6


    Feb 20, 2009
    I, too, prefer Steermouse over the Logitech control software...
  8. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    I'm not making excuses for them just saying why it's such a common occurrence.

    My ex gf was forced to switch to a windows machine because of this issue last year with El Cap. She wasn't computer savvy enough to get the MS Suite to work for a critical project she needed to get done. She never switched back the Apple.
  9. Voenix Rising macrumors member

    Voenix Rising

    May 1, 2013
    You can add NEAT to that list. I'm done waiting months after each OS update in order to use their scanner. It's going on Craigslist tonight.
  10. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    HP isn't much better. I needed to reinstall their drivers when I went to El Cap and even though those drivers were updated around that time period it welcomed me to the Mavericks installer.

    Moving to Sierra and it still seems to work fine without me doing anything, although I haven't tried to scan anything yet. I will try it tonight just to verify it works.
  11. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

    Oct 13, 2008
    Some devs are Sierra only leaving some behind.
  12. Aquaporin macrumors 6502

    Jun 27, 2005
    Get Papers for OS X as an alternative to Endnote. I prefer papers as a reference manager. Though Endnote works fine for bibliography still (just made major revisions for an accepted paper), and is 100x better for actual citations.

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