4.0 - Misc Features

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  1. macduke macrumors 604

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    So the iPad only has 256mb of RAM. Sure, this is fine for a lot of apps, and the iOS is highly optimized and streamlined. But for Mobile Safari, it really sucks. As I'm sure many of you know, tabs reload all the time. This rarely happens on my 3GS, but happened all the time on my iPhone and iPhone 3g.

    So why wouldn't they include 512mb or 1gb? Well, the obvious answer is price. But doesn't that seem like a small price to pay for sacrificing the user experience?

    This all leads me to believe that iOS 4.0 will support some sort of virtual (swap) memory to temporarily write these pages out to the flash memory, meaning that they wouldn't have to keep redownloading. Sure, this is a geeky feature that a lot of people probably won't think about, but I believe that it could be just as important as anything else for the user experience.

    In addition, many people are expecting Apple to finally enable 3rd party multitasking in iOS 4.0. Using this technique of swapping data on and off of the flash memory could go a long way towards accomplishing that feat, though at a potential performance hit when switching. It is up to Apple to figure out a way to optimize all of this, but I'm sure that the A4 is capable of handling the extra workload. Perhaps this is why Apple advertised 10 hours of battery life and people (myself included) consistently get 11-12 hours? Perhaps it will be reduced down to 9-10 when multitasking debuts this summer.

    Lastly, I want to briefly touch on something that I don't think a lot of people have thought about. Gestures. The iPad currently supports 10 (I've even heard some devs say 11) finger touches at once. If any of you have used Autodesk Sketchbook Pro on iPad, you know how useful the three-finger tap and swiping is when it comes to navigating the various menus and interface elements. I can see Apple implementing this in apps like Safari, where a three-finger swipe can navigate forward/backward between pages, swipe up to enter an address and have the keyboard pop up, swipe down to bring down the bookmarks menu. Three finger spin to refresh the page? Ok, maybe that last one is a bit extreme, but as you can see, there are many possibilities.

    For me, these are two of my top hopes for tomorrow. The tab reloading in Safari is my biggest gripe with the iPad, along with no way to run Pandora in the background. I'm also really hoping for some simple printing options: document and photo, along with a centralized file system and ability to upload in Safari. Lastly, user accounts that are easy to switch between on the lock screen. My wife and I frequently share the iPad and keeping our stuff separate would be nice. These are all features that will help me get things done on the iPad. Hopefully Apple will address at least some of these concerns tomorrow!
     
  2. colmaclean macrumors 68000

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    One thing about virtual memory is it will have a dramatic effect on the lifespan of flash memory if you're constantly writing to it.
     
  3. yayitsezekiel macrumors 6502a

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    yeah cause RAM isn't the same as flash memory, and It will get worn out real fast. This is a good idea and seems logical, but I would rather have my storage last longer. It would have been nice to have a gig in there
     
  4. mbell75 macrumors 6502

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    I agree, 256MB of RAM for the iPad is very weak. My HTC Hero has 288MB...
     
  5. macduke thread starter macrumors 604

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    Yeah, this is by far my biggest complaint about the iPad. I was relieved when iFixit's teardown confirmed it was 512mb, and I figured that it would be easy for Apple to fix it as it was simply a software bug. I'm hoping that to a certain degree that is still the case, but when iFixit updated their story and said it was only 256mb, my heart dropped. I was in denial. That extra bit of ram could give this device a lot more potential, especially when it comes to more complex apps. I think a lot of people miss that point. Sure, it will still be able to do incredible things, but why limit the potential and harm the user experience? Just switching from Safari to Settings and back caused me to reload a forum post I was writing a few minutes ago, erasing everything I had written. Its ridiculous. They really need to do something about Safari. I can't see the ram being able to hold many more apps, so unless they can figure out some sort of caching scheme, don't bank on multitasking being announced tomorrow. That is, of course, unless they implement my dashboard concept idea that I was touting a long time ago that contains VERY lightweight apps that sip battery and ram usage. Wait, I just got an idea and need to write up a new thread--lol.

    Edit: I was going to post about my original thread regarding the missing keyboard key and how the keyboard dock doesn't come out until the end of April, which gives Apple time to add the dashboard key, but someone beat me to it.
     
  6. mobilebuddha macrumors regular

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    Ya know it would be a cruel joke for us early adopters if the 3G models have 512mb of ram...

    I just had that thought.

     
  7. msavwah macrumors 6502

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    The safari refresh is annoying. Was a little sad to not see improvement here.
     
  8. pondie84 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm gutted about the Safari reset thing not being fixed. It completely ruins the browsing experience on some websites because the refresh logs you out or takes you back to a different page.
     
  9. kultschar macrumors 6502a

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    Am I the only one who is a little cautious about this whole 4.0 preview today??

    I mean they have not mentioned the iPad at all - the iPhone 4.0 preview.

    Of course it will have knock on effects to the ipad but im sort of not getting hopes up to high (hoping to be blown away of course!)
     
  10. macduke thread starter macrumors 604

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    Apple has stated that the OS is to be referred to as iPhone OS, which applies to their three touch product lines. Example: iPhone OS SDK 3.2. Even though it was iPad only, it was still called that. Until Apple says different (I can see this changing before too long), this is what it's called.
     
  11. Compile 'em all macrumors 601

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  12. macduke thread starter macrumors 604

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    Then why is memory management in Safari so horrible? The experience is really shoddy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Apple as much as the next fan. But this is just crap. The Internet component is a huge part of the iPad, and right now it's borked. Get it fixed, Apple!
     
  13. Romanesq macrumors 6502a

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    Flash RAM...

    Been wondering why folks have not seen this as a solution since it's been used for so long, so effectively.

    We'll see later today.
     

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