MP 1,1-5,1 4,1 cMP case compatible with older ones?

AlphaQUp

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Jan 7, 2020
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Good morning.
I recently picked up a 4,1. The unit is pristine inside, but quite rough outside (scratches, dents, etc).

I might have access to a case from an older cMP (unsure of the version, will have to verify). I know that the internal "layout" is different, but does anyone know whether the "outer shell" is compatible with the 4,1's guts? If it's 100% identical, I would like to transfer the contents.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 

tsialex

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Good morning.
I recently picked up a 4,1. The unit is pristine inside, but quite rough outside (scratches, dents, etc).

I might have access to a case from an older cMP (unsure of the version, will have to verify). I know that the internal "layout" is different, but does anyone know whether the "outer shell" is compatible with the 4,1's guts? If it's 100% identical, I would like to transfer the contents.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Cases seems identical externally, but are totally different internally. Btw, the shell is mounted with hundreds of torx screws, no one that had this idea put it in practice, at least not here on MR.

Mac Pro model case compatibility:
1,1 = 2,1
3,1 is unique
4,1 = 5,1
 

AlphaQUp

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Jan 7, 2020
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Hi Alex, thanks for the reply.

Cases seems identical externally, but are totally different internally.
I am familiar with the layout differences inside, but just to make sure I understand: are you saying that the internal layout is actually part of the outer shell, therefore making it non-interchangeable?
 

tsialex

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Jun 13, 2016
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Hi Alex, thanks for the reply.

I am familiar with the layout differences inside, but just to make sure I understand: are you saying that the internal layout is actually part of the outer shell, therefore making it non-interchangeable?
The outer skin is mounted with hundreds of screws, even if you safely remove every one, you can't use a outer skin from a MP1,1 with a MP4,1, the screws positions don't match.

Various people had the same idea in the past, no one transplanted the outer skin successfully.
 

AlphaQUp

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Jan 7, 2020
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The outer skin is mounted with hundreds of screws, even if you safely remove every one, you can't use a outer skin from a MP1,1 with a MP4,1, the screws positions don't match.

Various people had the same idea in the past, no one transplanted the outer skin successfully.
Excellent, thanks for confirming, Alex. I now understand. I'll focus on finding a matching case, or paint/powdercoat mine.

dann lackier ihn doch schwarz oder pink (sollte dir schwarz nicht gefallen) ;- )
Looks great! Is that your video? Was that powdercoated, or painted? Most importantly, how did you get the new sticker for the back? That's one of my concerns when I consider painting my current case. Thanks!
 

MIKX

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The 2,1 door fits on my 2009 4,1>5,1. but the lock doesn't work though it doesn't fall off.
I drilled a hole in the lower bottom right side of the door to allow an LED to show drive activity drive from my M.2 NVMe PCIe adapter. Having the LED show me when my Samsung 970 EVO bootdrive is active is surprisingly useful.

Also cut a 5mm Width x 50 mm slot to allow my USB powered fan ( for the Northbridge Tdiode ) cable to my external self-powered 7 port USB 2.0 hub.

LED for drive activity SML.JPG


The slot for the USB fan cable is behind the external 3,1 2 drive Dock.
 

AlphaQUp

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Nice setup, MIKX. I am noting down the components in your sig (didn't know about the EVGA PowerLink, for example). Could you share the specific NVMe PCIe adapter you wound up using? I am researching options now.

Thanks for the tips!
 

MIKX

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Nice setup, MIKX. I am noting down the components in your sig (didn't know about the EVGA PowerLink, for example). Could you share the specific NVMe PCIe adapter you wound up using? I am researching options now.

Thanks for the tips!
I'm using an OWltech M.2 adapter ( OWL-PCEXM2-03 ) which may not be available outside Japan where I live but it is a hi-quality unit and has a nice fan & heatsink and the two prongs marked " LED" on the PCB if you want to create a M.2 blade 'drive activity' cable.


Web link : https://www.owltech.co.jp/product/pcexm2-03

01 OWLtech box.JPG


03 Owltech details.JPG


01 -  M.2 adapter & 2 heatsinks.JPG


In summer I attach two extra copper heatsinks.

Current temp is 29°C.
 
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AlphaQUp

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Jan 7, 2020
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I'm using an OWltech M.2 adapter ( OWL-PCEXM2-03 ) which may not be available outside Japan where I live but it is a hi-quality unit and has a nice fan & heatsink and the two prongs marked " LED" on the PCB if you want to create a M.2 blade 'drive activity' cable.

Web link : https://www.owltech.co.jp/product/pcexm2-03

In summer I attach two extra copper heatsinks.

Current temp is 29°C.
Awesome info. Thanks again, MIKX!
 
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